bmartz1991

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That sucks man, some shitty luck. Good luck with everything.

tomj77

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wait, stage 3 cams? didn't zzp just come out with the stage 2 cams? why is there stage 3 cams suddenly? this does suck. that car seemed to have all kinds of bad luck. bad installs? stuff not being done right to begin with? very odd.

Omiotek

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stage 3 cams are for special people only.

Mxman38

CudaJoe

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I got one name for yall.

James mothafuckin Rakes

LET THA BATTLE COMMENCE.


Edit: Ahhhh... its already been pointed out as a zzp build damn. I thought this was gonna be a blame game thread. Sorry about your engine blowing up mxman. But you are providing very useful info to the rest of us who are looking to "upgrade" to the better engine. Honestly it is still a better engine due to the thick water jacket. LNF scares me on that. I dont want the porus block happening to me.

Mxman38

Does that picture tell anything?

gmtech16450yz

Yep it does. It tells you that the tune killed your engine. Nothing else. The tune. Period. The End.

It amazes me that you guys are still throwing money at vendors that either don't know or don't care.

user 72239

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For once I agree with Gm tech. Lately me and a few of my friends have noticed that zzp doesn't seem to give two ***** about the ecotec community anymore.

AaronJ

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Hey hey, he is still on here.

gmtech16450yz

I'm sorry, I was wrong. It wasn't ONLY the tune, stupidity had a huge part in it too.

Quote from the owner of the car...



Are you people insane? Here's what happened. You broke a piston by overheating the rings and breaking a ring land. You then proceeded to keep driving it and doing "Highway pulls". That fractured piston could not handle that and came apart. Broken piston pieces don't compress very easily so the rod also exploded and destroyed everything else.

All you had to do was STOP DRIVING IT when it was belching smoke and all you would be doing right now is throwing some pistons in it.

Really? This is a big mystery? Horrible vendor+bad parts+horrible tune+stupidity=shrapnel. This stuff is utterly amazing to me.

Edit-

Wait a minute. I just re-read the owners post about what happened. He picks up the car from ZZP and it's smoking on the way home? Holy cr@p, they did a dyno run didn't they? ZZP BROKE THAT ENGINE ON THE DYNO!!!!!!!!!!! They pushed it too far on a cr@ppy tune and cracked the piston. That was why it was smoking on his way home from ZZP. Again, the cracked piston finally failed catastrophically after "a couple highway pulls".

I wasn't there, but the way it's described, it sure looks like ZZP broke this motor on the dyno and just let the guy pick it up and drive it home. Holy f'ing cr@p! Tell me I'm wrong in my reading of this guys. Sure seems to me it's pretty simple to understand what happened. No wonder they didn't give him any dyno sheets!!! Infriggincredible.

Anyone wanna guess how long it takes for me to get banned by simply stating the obvious here? lolz.

gmtech16450yz

A little birdie told me I'd get a good laugh if I checked in on here. He was right, this forum NEVER fails to be entertaining.

vanos

Just Think if you just spent $200,000 + Large and this occurred!
Porsche is the first MFGr to issue a
“Emergency Stand-Down” ‘STOP Drive’ order in history!! So much for Porsche Quality.

What engineering group approved this GT3 2014 build and passed it to replication & manufacturing??
For 270 cars!! Fire! Fire!
And if the Ignition switch MEDIA filibustering/ Love Fest is beyond out of control /stupid;
This recall article is in plain sight w/ all it’s Regalia in the Porsch Owners club mag… Jan 2014. Hello Meedia!

Think If This exercise in low quality ‘DANGEROUS’ manufacturing Occurred to caddy/Chevrolet/bmw/ford ?
This SUReLY would get the media all ‘gasaming’ about how bad [gm] is when truly they are somewhat fair most of the time ?? AND THE slimestream media WOULD NEVER STOP…

WHY is Porsche protected from this dildoe-like exercise in low quality DANGEROUS manufacturing??

This compares simply AS just as lame as the hamas rocketing –
-without ‘da Lamestream Media Calling hamas Racist!

“Never-mind” {sat night live-- first season}


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AaronJ

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Haha, well you need to get your entertainment from somewhere since you are on hiatus from the solsticeforum

Mxman38

Look call it stupidity all you want that's why I am on this forum, i dont know anything about these cars... hell everything I did read was that a direct inject turbo car burned oil normally so a catch can was necessary. I honestly thought tne extra rpm just had more vacuume in the casing or something.
Doesn't zzp safely tune cars?
I'm more upset about Zzp calling me back a week later and saying they didn't get my email (are you f'ing kidding me I see it confirmed in my sent folder) he states he just got the voice mail a week later and there's nothing he could do so he didn't call back right away. I'm not one to ever negatively critique a shop, but dear lord, zzp Even admitted that he smelt oil on my test drive, then gave me my freaking car back to drive home. I'm a police officer I've seem my fair share of bad accidents, but I am truly blessed I didn't lose my damn life due to zzps negligence. seems they were quick to take my cash but when it came time for them to sac up they won't help me out at all. Kind of sucks, ib may just cut my loses and trade it in once this motor goes in...

ECaulk

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Just for your info, the EFR (before zzp puts their exhaust housing on it) has a double sealed bearing cartridge specifically to address the oil consumption from traditionally built turbos. Check out their youtube vid about the EFR some damn interesting tech went into them

Mxman38

I've seen it, but people still blow the zfr so I didn't bet against it.

ECaulk

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Early efr's had an issue, they released an updated version shortly after the initial

cobaltss#01

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wow I was going to zzp to get tuned. now I don't know if I want to. That's some scary ****.

Mxman38

Lol, im not saying don't go there. .. Matt knows his **** and no one can really prove my issue was tune related , I was just simply posting the truth since no one seemed to know the story behind the pictures.

Matt M

Kyle- I'm not sure why you wouldn't email me direct. I'm sure you noticed that every time you asked tech questions they were forwarded to me. This is the first I am hearing about most of your issues. As far as the clutch- you do realize we were prototyping and we never charged anything for any repairs as far as I know. Hopefully you can agree that you specifically asked for parts that we don't have available. Your cams for example are s3 because they have the largest fuel pump lobe. S2 and s3 cams have the same intake and exh lobes. The reason we called them a mix is because you don't need the offset phasers to spin past 7400 with the regal ECM. As far as the smoking- that is news to me. And the tune did not break your motor. You are running on e85 which has far more octane than pump gas, and you only have 18-19 degrees of timing. It is a conservative tune. This rod issue has actually been documented and it has been found that the rods are in fact weaker in the regal than in the cobalt.

More importantly- you seemed like a really good customer. I'm not sure how we ended up here. If someone didn't respond to you or you didn't like their answer, you can always escalate it within zzp and look for a resolution. Throwing us in the mosh pit and trash talking us won't help anyone.

Scythe_Snake

I don't know how you can think they don't care about the Ecotec communtiy anymore, since they are literally diving head first into the ATS Ecotecs and still making parts for our cars.

What would make you think that they don't? Curiously?

I have been on a ZZP tune since day one, sitting at my power level, and never once was my tune an issue...well once, when the trifecta tune was on it and it never wanted to read right lol. I suggest getting ZZP tuned.


Remember folks, you are getting one side to a story. I wouldn't throw stones until/when/if you get 100% of the facts on what actually happened.

Wert842

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Zzps at fault. Lol... People always pointing fingers.

Matt M

John wasn't actually saying you showed stupidity. He only made that statement to set himself up to later say, "oh I just noticed zzp drove it..." Etc... Then he can act like he's not bias and doesn't only come on this forum when he sees a chance to bash us. John thinks everyone on this forum is dumb and will therefore fall for his tactics.

cobaltss#01

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I like that Matt chimed in because, until this I never heard anything like this happening and it makes me feel a lot better hearing his side.

GreenySC2

I'll still goto ZZP nothing but good things are what I've heard