May have solved 100% E85 on LNF puzzle
I have also read that engines that are not designed for E85 may see accelerated exhaust valve wear due to the more corrosive nature of E85 fuel. I am not sure if that will be a problem with the LNF or not.
Correct.
I've been running 4 oz Marvel Mystery Oil to 10 gals of the E blend since I started my experiments last year, I figure the extra lube with the ethanol can't hurt.
I don't know. I have spoken to some people that claim to have spoken to Bosch engineers about E85 on the LNF and they were told that while the fuel system technically isn't certified for E85 it meets the design requirements for it.
I have also read that engines that are not designed for E85 may see accelerated exhaust valve wear due to the more corrosive nature of E85 fuel. I am not sure if that will be a problem with the LNF or not.
I have also read that engines that are not designed for E85 may see accelerated exhaust valve wear due to the more corrosive nature of E85 fuel. I am not sure if that will be a problem with the LNF or not.
I am Broke, Do you still use a small amount of marvel mystery oil to offset the drying of the E? I know a lot of the people on bob is the oil guy swear by that stuff in every tank of regular gas even and I have read about homebrew race gas mixes using it also to help with seals, valves,pumps etc.
I am Broke, Do you still use a small amount of marvel mystery oil to offset the drying of the E? I know a lot of the people on bob is the oil guy swear by that stuff in every tank of regular gas even and I have read about homebrew race gas mixes using it also to help with seals, valves,pumps etc.
Sorry, my question was aimed more at horsepower/torque. I definitely understand the benefit of injection window misfire.
Here's the dyno sheet. My apologies for the missing parts of the graph, we were having ignition pick up issues on the earlier runs. I had to select a tuned run at 293HP as the 301HP run barely got picked up when displaying in RPM mode.
Also, I started my E85 runs late in the RPM band because on E85 my clutch is extremely unhappy about the extra power at low to mid RPM. I really wish I could show the torque at those lower RPMs because I'm quite sure it would be pretty phenomenal, but, well, I can only do so much with the clutch I have. Lol
The blue run is stock
The red run is tuned for gasoline
The green run is tuned for E85
Also, I started my E85 runs late in the RPM band because on E85 my clutch is extremely unhappy about the extra power at low to mid RPM. I really wish I could show the torque at those lower RPMs because I'm quite sure it would be pretty phenomenal, but, well, I can only do so much with the clutch I have. Lol
The blue run is stock
The red run is tuned for gasoline
The green run is tuned for E85
I had to re-train myself with regard to this car and it's damn finicky throttle/clutch. After doing so and adjusting how power comes on, clutch is fine and dandy
Thanks again Vince.
Updated my files tonight for the latest E85 2400 psi layer with 20* advance up top. Added another 5 gals of E85, should be 85% ethanol now or damn close. We'll see what tomorrow brings, but it's supposed to be a rainy week here.
Thanks again Vince for all you do for the community.
Thanks again Vince for all you do for the community.
I need to datalog in phoenix sometime. With a preggers wife and a car full of E85 I logged a 60-100 of 5.1 sec on vinces tune. (at 3000+ ft altitude.)
So without my wife riding shotgun, and a car full of E85, lower altitude. Sub 5 sec 60-100 should be possible in the sedan. (Only mod is AB Mod and tune)
From what I saw in the file too, this was only with 18 degrees of advance up top.
So without my wife riding shotgun, and a car full of E85, lower altitude. Sub 5 sec 60-100 should be possible in the sedan. (Only mod is AB Mod and tune)
From what I saw in the file too, this was only with 18 degrees of advance up top.
Last edited by drewbroo; Mar 21, 2011 at 02:51 PM.


