Pretty much the reason I have no desire to go to the dyno...what good does that information do me anyways? I spend much of my time at the track and am a fan of the butt dyno..it works well...the way I see it...if I lay down a better time at the track and the car feels like it either pulls harder or smoother or whatever it may be..then somethings workin out right eh? As long as I'm not getting weird Knock when I do testing...I give whatever mod it may be a big ole . Can't wait to hook up the data logging to see what the difference is now that I did the "ZZP Airbox mod" and tore off that stupid snorkel...Worst case scenario...I'll have to buy an aftermarket intake...darn

 

Let us know what you run sweetsandman. I'm interested.

 

Saving this for when I get home. =)

 

Saving what?

 

where's the details brasco? lets go eh....

 

LOL. I am still waiting on the Trifecta to get here from Washington state.

I am pleased with the Superchips tune. 20lbs of boost is fun. The tires do not break loose on a 2nd gear stab. The boost is limited in 1st gear which is actually a good thing. It is very similar to stock in 1st gear.

2nd gear boost is real nice. I have seen 22psi spikes then it settles to 19-20psi. It pushes you back in the seat wayyyy more than stock. Serious g-forces applied there. Third gear pulls looong up to 100+mph which is very nice on the street.

I am interested in the Trifecta tune due to the added torque, that would result in additional wheel spin undoubtedly. In speaking with Vince, he will fine tune it for my preferences. He can adjust all kinds of things.

 

I just got my trifecta tune today and as you all know I had the superchips so I'll give a mini comparison here. Superchips was obviously easy to install and was a nice boost in power compared to stock, there was definitely a big difference, except first gear. As Donnie stated in another thread, with superchips it wanted to rush into boost, and if you weren't careful and people were walking outside near your car, you look like a complete idiot! I just installed Trifecta like two hours ago. First off, my hat's off to Vince. I installed the tune, took my car out for a spin and noticed it was very smooth, yet the torque seemed a little off. I called Vince, within 3-4 minutes he called back. I made a data log, sent it to Vince and within 15 minutes he sent me an update. I went out and test drove my car again. Good Gosh! the power was definitely there as the tires were spinning in my 2nd gear 40mph punch. Once again, driveability is much smoother than superchips. You can also tell a good difference between superchips and trifecta, trifecta pulls a good bit harder in 2nd, and way harder in third. So, to all those debating the two, I highly recommend trifecta, his customer service is bar none, his product is freaking awesome, and it comes at a very reasonable price.

 

I too have had both. I loved my SCT...power, but still reserved. The Trifecta however is smoother as previously stated but feels alot more powerful. Vince is a great at what he does and very patient. SCT is a large entity and more distant. If you want power and an expert on the other line I would choose Trifecta. Thank you Vince for your innovation, passion for performance, and a Great product!

 

This is by far one of the most conclusive and credible SC vs Trifecta inputs I've seen.

Thanks Austinss

 

no problem. I wanted to try both, I'm glad I did so I could let everyone know the differences, and I'm happy where I'm at now.

 

I'm glad i'm not the only person to notice how sensitive the Superchips tune is . It can be annoying at times , like pulling into a parking lot ..... give it a little throttle and the thing wants to take off.

I really like the Code reader , clearer , and Data logging capabilities of the SC cortex , plus if you want to find a place to mount it , you can read 4 different parameters at a time on the tuners screen . They offer about 25 different values you can watch , plus 0-30 0-60 0-100 1/4 mile times.

The other advantage of a SC tuner is you can sell it ....just flash your car back to stock and ship it out, easy as that. It can be used by a broad range of GM cars and trucks and as long as you flash your car back to stock it unlocks the tuner from your VIN.

Add all those features , plus a tune that give's you a nice bump in power and is safe .. and i think it's worth the 300 bucks i paid for it ( got mine used) . It might not be the most powerful , but it sure is better than stock .

 

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i stab my trifecta tune now and it competely smokes the front tires form a 2nd gear punch, even in the 80+ degree heat now. its not even funny.

vince has me at about 24psi and about 6 degress or so advance timing and I will tell you this car loves the timing and boost. and no knock even in the heat based on my data logs, got to love my big fat hahn IC.

the car runs 10times better than my bsr tune I did have.

 

r u on infiniboost? and u mean spiking 24 and holding around 22 right?

 

no it spikes 24 and pretty much stays put all the way thru redline at 24 psi, no drop off. its pretty consistent

yes I have the new trifecta tune and it runs out real nice!

 

OK - here we go!

I agree completely with the assessment that the Trifecta tune is the better of the two. Bar none.

The drivability is better with Trifecta, and I have stated before, the Superchips wanted to rush into boost and make the car jerky. The fiancee definately didn't like it.

The Trifecta is smooth and definately more powerful. The tires can start to bark at the top of 1st gear. I have not datalogged, and I am currently waiting to install the "switch tune" from Vince.

Vince is very accessible and knowledgable. All those who say otherwise are pretty much dead wrong. Every time I call Vince, he answers and helps me out. You can talk the breeze with the guy. In fact, he took the time to talk despite the fact that he was at a dyno doing work on a car.

Trifecta is an awesome product. Great development.

People who get the Trifecta should definately datalog and get the file to Vince. It actually helps refine his tunes for different altitudes and areas of the country. It also fine tunes the base tune and you definately see before and after results.

Thank you Clear Image and thank you Trifecta.

 

took me two weeks of data logs and bout twenty emails and a few calls with vince till we worked out mu tune(no issues) just really really fine tuning.

we went up on a/f, down in a/f, up in timing, down in timing, adjusted a little for any knock and my car seems to be dialed in where it is now.

it runs out nice.

 

Don't know if it was mentioned but anyone else notice that when you first start your car up with Superchips your car runs like **** for a couple minutes. Where it is actually difficult to drive. It starts bogging out till it warms up.

 

my bsr tune used to bog out like that at start up all the time, not sure why?

 

The stock tune is just as bad. It is because the car goes into cat warmup mode which cannot be removed by any tune at this point. -17* of timing makes this car powerless.

 

Stock = I have no problem. Superchips = a ******* pain in the ass everytime I start up and drive.

Unless I didnt notice it on the stock tune. But with the superchips it is almost undriveable. It feels like when you are in the car with someone when it is their first time driving stick.They don't give enough gas and pop the clutch and the car goes jerking like crazy.

 

Yeah that is the cat warm up mode... makes the car a PITA...

hit the throttle and it goes no where.... ha ha

 

Yeah haha, and you feel like a retard if anyone is around. I can hear it now "Wow that guy sucks at driving stick"

 

Yeah, I usually let it finish its thing before I go anywhere... or at least the cat warmup part (when the fuel pressure drops below 700psi).

It's probably better for the engine/turbo anyway.

 

I guess you did not notice as much as there is nothing in the SC tune that would make it run worse during warmup.

Yes, it is a lot better for the engine, the turbo and the driver's sanity to just let it do its thing for a few moments.