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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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Come on guys! you're not helping the mod bug!!! Lol.

Thanks for the info. I basically want the stock map to tune back to stock on longer road trips, just for economy's sake, and to put it back on to take it to the dealer. Of course, if something in the engine goes wrong, I am not going to try to mask it and say I was stock the whole time, I just want the stock on there so they don't test drive it and realize I am tuned (before someone claims I am a scam, lol).

So, I can change maps with my laptop, I like that. Glad to hear there are no problems. I am tossing around the CIA boost tubing for sure. I like the price, and it seems they are engineering some solid pieces.
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by redcomet303
why does everyone keep comparing the cobalt to a mustang. I beat the new one and the old ones stock for stock all the time.

I want to know how well it does against evos and stis (dont get many round these parts) I know it beats the speed3 and the srt4.
Nobody is comparing it, it just seems like alot of Cobalts end up racing Mustangs. And what mods do you have? It takes atleast stage 2 and bolt ons to beat a new 05+ GT, and the same with the Mach 1, and I dont even wanna discuss the 03-04 Cobras.

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You must have modded your 99 GT because it really isnt a match for the SS/TC, stock for stock.

Both run around 14.0 in the QM and mine did have full boltons and a tune It ran 13.8 at 104
Hmm, the SS/TC traps like 103-104 and the 99-04 GT's trapped 99-100 at best. Average for the 99-04 GT's was around 14.1-14.2 and we really dont have an average for the SS/TC yet, it's too early. And there are already stock SS/TC's running faster than 13.8 and trapping 103-104mph, which it took a full bolt on 2v to do that.

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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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look all I have is a stock TC. and yes it outruns the 05+ mustangs. if you don't believe me ask MBMCustoms or see his mod list and I will let you know he keeps up with me till about 110 then I start to pull a bit. But I will say his car is a bit quicker than mine off the jump because of the tiny amount of lag the TC has.
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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Ya thats why he is quicker off the line...because of your LAG
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobaltss/TC
No issues at all with the tune i have had it for almost 4000 miles no issues what so ever. What we suggest you get with the tune is boost tubing because of the extra pressure and i recommend a DEJON BPV spring upgrade that will hold boost better. If you get the Data cable i am sure Vince can send you the stock configuration to your laptop so you can switch when ever you want
All data cable (EZ Flash) orders include a copy of the stock tune so you can go back to stock whenever you want.
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by redcomet303
look all I have is a stock TC. and yes it outruns the 05+ mustangs. if you don't believe me ask MBMCustoms or see his mod list and I will let you know he keeps up with me till about 110 then I start to pull a bit. But I will say his car is a bit quicker than mine off the jump because of the tiny amount of lag the TC has.
You must be talking about roll racing, which is ok, but dont try and say your car is faster just because you can pull another car from a roll. Go try and outrun an 05+ GT at the 1/8 mile or 1/4 mile, because if the driver is halfway competent, than you will lose. And a race that goes past 110 isnt really a race, unless your car is modded and you trap 110+, or unless again you're talking about a roll race. The fastest stock SS/TC ran a 13.5 and it only happened once, average is high 13's, low 14's, and average for the 05+ GT's is 13.6-13.7, with really good drivers getting into the 13.2-13.3 range.
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FutureEcotecOwner
You must be talking about roll racing, which is ok, but dont try and say your car is faster just because you can pull another car from a roll. Go try and outrun an 05+ GT at the 1/8 mile or 1/4 mile, because if the driver is halfway competent, than you will lose. And a race that goes past 110 isnt really a race, unless your car is modded and you trap 110+, or unless again you're talking about a roll race. The fastest stock SS/TC ran a 13.5 and it only happened once, average is high 13's, low 14's, and average for the 05+ GT's is 13.6-13.7, with really good drivers getting into the 13.2-13.3 range.
12.56 dood, search is your seatbelt , on this road to ignorance.
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FutureEcotecOwner
You must be talking about roll racing, which is ok, but dont try and say your car is faster just because you can pull another car from a roll. Go try and outrun an 05+ GT at the 1/8 mile or 1/4 mile, because if the driver is halfway competent, than you will lose. And a race that goes past 110 isnt really a race, unless your car is modded and you trap 110+, or unless again you're talking about a roll race. The fastest stock SS/TC ran a 13.5 and it only happened once, average is high 13's, low 14's, and average for the 05+ GT's is 13.6-13.7, with really good drivers getting into the 13.2-13.3 range.

Even from a roll the new mustang should get a new TC stock for stock...drivers race for sure...but I think top end would go to the stang.
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Chandler
12.56 dood, search is your seatbelt , on this road to ignorance.
The fastest stock SS/TC down to the tires has not ran a 12.56, LOL, it was a 13.56. Reading is your friend.

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Even from a roll the new mustang should get a new TC stock for stock...drivers race for sure...but I think top end would go to the stang.
I'm glad someone who has an SS/TC actually knows what he is talking about, LOL. So many people seem to think Mustangs have no top end, now maybe because mine has exhaust, intake and tune I think it has a top end.

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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 12:48 AM
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is it that serious or just a misunderstood opinion/fact?
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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[QUOTE=FutureEcotecOwner;3503514]Nobody is comparing it, it just seems like alot of Cobalts end up racing Mustangs. And what mods do you have? It takes atleast stage 2 and bolt ons to beat a new 05+ GT, and the same with the Mach 1, and I dont even wanna discuss the 03-04 Cobras.

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Hmm, the SS/TC traps like 103-104 and the 99-04 GT's trapped 99-100 at best. Average for the 99-04 GT's was around 14.1-14.2 and we really dont have an average for the SS/TC yet, it's too early. And there are already stock SS/TC's running faster than 13.8 and trapping 103-104mph, which it took a full bolt on 2v to do that.
Mustang will generally get off the line better so about he same ET but not as much top end hence the lower trap speed. From a roll the TC will win out after a while. If you are not using the NLS the TC will run about 14.2 at 103.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by FutureEcotecOwner
Nobody is comparing it, it just seems like alot of Cobalts end up racing Mustangs. And what mods do you have? It takes atleast stage 2 and bolt ons to beat a new 05+ GT, and the same with the Mach 1, and I dont even wanna discuss the 03-04 Cobras.



Mustang will generally get off the line better so about he same ET but not as much top end hence the lower trap speed. From a roll the TC will win out after a while. If you are not using the NLS the TC will run about 14.2 at 103.
And since the lower trap speed, which is generally 99-100 for the 99-04 GT's, and 103-104 for the SS/TC, the SS/TC should be faster and generally is gonna be faster.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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And since the lower trap speed, which is generally 99-100 for the 99-04 GT's, and 103-104 for the SS/TC, the SS/TC should be faster and generally is gonna be faster.
Yep. eventually the TC will pass the GT, but from a dig the GT will beat the TC for a while unless the TC driver is very good at launching. The 0-30 mph time is faster for the GT at about 2.0 sec vs 2.3 sec for the TC, but that is only half a car length and the 0-100 time for the TC is 1.3 sec faster for the TC so the TC will win out in the end.

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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by FutureEcotecOwner
The fastest stock SS/TC down to the tires has not ran a 12.56, LOL, it was a 13.56. .
oops, your right, thats what i meant to type. pwned..
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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oops, your right, thats what i meant to type. pwned..
LOL!! I figured, or was hoping you meant 13.56, because at 12.56, I dont think there would be any discussion about what is the fastest stock FWD car for under 25k.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike09SS
Even from a roll the new mustang should get a new TC stock for stock...drivers race for sure...but I think top end would go to the stang.
see now my tc pulls my buddies mustang gt on the top end, he has an 06 with intake, eshaust, and pullies but i am not saying that is every mustang and i know he is a very good driver running around the 13.1 - 13.3 range in the quarter, also he can shift as fast or faster then i can even using the NLS.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
see now my tc pulls my buddies mustang gt on the top end, he has an 06 with intake, eshaust, and pullies but i am not saying that is every mustang and i know he is a very good driver running around the 13.1 - 13.3 range in the quarter, also he can shift as fast or faster then i can even using the NLS.
Is your car stock? If so he should be beating you if he runs low 13s.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
see now my tc pulls my buddies mustang gt on the top end, he has an 06 with intake, eshaust, and pullies but i am not saying that is every mustang and i know he is a very good driver running around the 13.1 - 13.3 range in the quarter, also he can shift as fast or faster then i can even using the NLS.

if your stock man and the mustang has those mods it shouldnt be a race he would be putting lengths on pretty quickly...but back on topic...these cars with tunes are fun.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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if your stock man and the mustang has those mods it shouldnt be a race he would be putting lengths on pretty quickly...but back on topic...these cars with tunes are fun.
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This car is definately way me fun tuned.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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Is your car stock? If so he should be beating you if he runs low 13s.
all i have done is dejon intake and muffler delete no tune yet. this is also from a roll video in war stories 09 cobalt ss vs 06 mustang gt
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
see now my tc pulls my buddies mustang gt on the top end, he has an 06 with intake, eshaust, and pullies but i am not saying that is every mustang and i know he is a very good driver running around the 13.1 - 13.3 range in the quarter, also he can shift as fast or faster then i can even using the NLS.
they don't have a bs flag on these forums do they?
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 04:21 PM
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they don't have a bs flag on these forums do they?
Actually, he has a video of him basically sitting right next to and eventually beating the GT by a little. They stopped the race at 140 ish. So I retract my previous statement about the GT being faster. I wonder what my TC would do to that mustang I have about 54 whp and 83 wtrq more than stock
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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probally walk it pretty hard, we are both looking into tunes and was going to have them done at the same time. only problem is he said after the tunes his going to either 3.73 or 4.10 gears and he will probally beat me then

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they don't have a bs flag on these forums do they?
watch the video, and from looks of your name you probally have a srt4 of some sort and i am sorry your car cant do that.

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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 04:58 PM
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[QUOTE=cmiller8006;3510759]probally walk it pretty hard, we are both looking into tunes and was going to have them done at the same time. only problem is he said after the tunes his going to either 3.73 or 4.10 gears and he will probally beat me then

Traction is a problem though I have to go from a 3rd gear roll otherwie I spin pretty hard. I have beaten a C5 corvette though. He was like WTF was that I could see the look on his face as I pulled away. It was priceless.
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probally walk it pretty hard, we are both looking into tunes and was going to have them done at the same time. only problem is he said after the tunes his going to either 3.73 or 4.10 gears and he will probally beat me then



watch the video, and from looks of your name you probally have a srt4 of some sort and i am sorry your car cant do that.
wow... i watched the video and it was a close race. 5th gear you pulled slightly. congratulations. you must be very proud. mustang GT's 5th gear is a gas saving gear. and yes i have an SRT-4 and yes my car can do that.
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