Where is the GM stage kit?
they need to start making big turbo kits for it already.
How come everyone here doesnt just go psychotuned? Steve is an awsome tuner and Id be willing to bet he can tune better than stage 1. I think hes cheaper too.
How come everyone here doesnt just go psychotuned? Steve is an awsome tuner and Id be willing to bet he can tune better than stage 1. I think hes cheaper too.
lol so you are in the same boat as me lol i want...... 35r...... and over 500 hp..... without meth... thank you army money
Last edited by widowedeight; Feb 11, 2009 at 12:54 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
U could always do what we did, buy a second stock PCM

one for tuning, one for dealership
like hell they can't
"If a suspicious hard part failure is observed in the engine, transmission, transfer case or driveline, perform the calibration verification described to determine if a non-GM issued engine calibration is installed. Non-GM issued engine calibrations subject driveline components to stresses different from the calibrations that these components were validated to. Repairs to engine, transmission, transfer case and/or other driveline components where a non-GM engine calibration has been verified are not covered under the terms of the New Vehicle Warranty.
Instructions for Confirming Calibration Verification Number (CVN):
Go to TIS2WEB
Select "Calibration Information (SPS Info)"
Enter VIN
Select "Get Cal ID"
Select "ECM Engine Control Module" or "TCM Transmission Control Module"
Select "Next"
Select "Complete History"
Print
Take the printout to the vehicle along with the Tech 2Ž
Plug in the Tech 2Ž
Go to diagnostics and build the vehicle
Select "Powertrain"
Select "Engine"
*Select "Engine Control Module" or "PCM" or "TCM"
*Select "Module ID Information" or "I/M Information System" if module ID information selection is not available.
*If "I/M information System" was selected in step 15, it may be necessary to select "Vehicle Information" in order to display the calibration information.
Compare the calibration ID and Calibration Verification Numbers (CVN) to the Calibration Verification Numbers (CVN) on the printout.
* Steps may vary by controller.
Although the part numbers will be the same for each, it's the CVN that will determine if the calibration is GM issued. If ALL of the CVN's are EXACTLY the same, the calibration is GM issued.
If the part numbers match and ANY CVN's DO NOT match the printout, it is likely that a non-GM certified calibration has been installed."
"If a suspicious hard part failure is observed in the engine, transmission, transfer case or driveline, perform the calibration verification described to determine if a non-GM issued engine calibration is installed. Non-GM issued engine calibrations subject driveline components to stresses different from the calibrations that these components were validated to. Repairs to engine, transmission, transfer case and/or other driveline components where a non-GM engine calibration has been verified are not covered under the terms of the New Vehicle Warranty.
Instructions for Confirming Calibration Verification Number (CVN):
Go to TIS2WEB
Select "Calibration Information (SPS Info)"
Enter VIN
Select "Get Cal ID"
Select "ECM Engine Control Module" or "TCM Transmission Control Module"
Select "Next"
Select "Complete History"
Take the printout to the vehicle along with the Tech 2Ž
Plug in the Tech 2Ž
Go to diagnostics and build the vehicle
Select "Powertrain"
Select "Engine"
*Select "Engine Control Module" or "PCM" or "TCM"
*Select "Module ID Information" or "I/M Information System" if module ID information selection is not available.
*If "I/M information System" was selected in step 15, it may be necessary to select "Vehicle Information" in order to display the calibration information.
Compare the calibration ID and Calibration Verification Numbers (CVN) to the Calibration Verification Numbers (CVN) on the printout.
* Steps may vary by controller.
Although the part numbers will be the same for each, it's the CVN that will determine if the calibration is GM issued. If ALL of the CVN's are EXACTLY the same, the calibration is GM issued.
If the part numbers match and ANY CVN's DO NOT match the printout, it is likely that a non-GM certified calibration has been installed."
that is what i am going to to do but until i do.................. they just started as of last year looking for the last 10 tunes on the car....... so although most dealerships probally still don't.... they can
like hell they can't
"If a suspicious hard part failure is observed in the engine, transmission, transfer case or driveline, perform the calibration verification described to determine if a non-GM issued engine calibration is installed. Non-GM issued engine calibrations subject driveline components to stresses different from the calibrations that these components were validated to. Repairs to engine, transmission, transfer case and/or other driveline components where a non-GM engine calibration has been verified are not covered under the terms of the New Vehicle Warranty.
Instructions for Confirming Calibration Verification Number (CVN):
Go to TIS2WEB
Select "Calibration Information (SPS Info)"
Enter VIN
Select "Get Cal ID"
Select "ECM Engine Control Module" or "TCM Transmission Control Module"
Select "Next"
Select "Complete History"
Print
Take the printout to the vehicle along with the Tech 2Ž
Plug in the Tech 2Ž
Go to diagnostics and build the vehicle
Select "Powertrain"
Select "Engine"
*Select "Engine Control Module" or "PCM" or "TCM"
*Select "Module ID Information" or "I/M Information System" if module ID information selection is not available.
*If "I/M information System" was selected in step 15, it may be necessary to select "Vehicle Information" in order to display the calibration information.
Compare the calibration ID and Calibration Verification Numbers (CVN) to the Calibration Verification Numbers (CVN) on the printout.
* Steps may vary by controller.
Although the part numbers will be the same for each, it's the CVN that will determine if the calibration is GM issued. If ALL of the CVN's are EXACTLY the same, the calibration is GM issued.
If the part numbers match and ANY CVN's DO NOT match the printout, it is likely that a non-GM certified calibration has been installed."
"If a suspicious hard part failure is observed in the engine, transmission, transfer case or driveline, perform the calibration verification described to determine if a non-GM issued engine calibration is installed. Non-GM issued engine calibrations subject driveline components to stresses different from the calibrations that these components were validated to. Repairs to engine, transmission, transfer case and/or other driveline components where a non-GM engine calibration has been verified are not covered under the terms of the New Vehicle Warranty.
Instructions for Confirming Calibration Verification Number (CVN):
Go to TIS2WEB
Select "Calibration Information (SPS Info)"
Enter VIN
Select "Get Cal ID"
Select "ECM Engine Control Module" or "TCM Transmission Control Module"
Select "Next"
Select "Complete History"
Take the printout to the vehicle along with the Tech 2Ž
Plug in the Tech 2Ž
Go to diagnostics and build the vehicle
Select "Powertrain"
Select "Engine"
*Select "Engine Control Module" or "PCM" or "TCM"
*Select "Module ID Information" or "I/M Information System" if module ID information selection is not available.
*If "I/M information System" was selected in step 15, it may be necessary to select "Vehicle Information" in order to display the calibration information.
Compare the calibration ID and Calibration Verification Numbers (CVN) to the Calibration Verification Numbers (CVN) on the printout.
* Steps may vary by controller.
Although the part numbers will be the same for each, it's the CVN that will determine if the calibration is GM issued. If ALL of the CVN's are EXACTLY the same, the calibration is GM issued.
If the part numbers match and ANY CVN's DO NOT match the printout, it is likely that a non-GM certified calibration has been installed."
We need to solve fueling issues up top first so we can rev higher before we can get into the powerband of anything bigger than a 30R. The stock valvetrain has been proven by BTF to handle up to 7400 RPM no problem but once we get over 6500 RPM or so the injection window is too short, so to keep A/F the injection cycle carries over to the compression stroke. That is not good for optimum combustion or your cats or plugs either.
like hell they can't
"If a suspicious hard part failure is observed in the engine, transmission, transfer case or driveline, perform the calibration verification described to determine if a non-GM issued engine calibration is installed. Non-GM issued engine calibrations subject driveline components to stresses different from the calibrations that these components were validated to. Repairs to engine, transmission, transfer case and/or other driveline components where a non-GM engine calibration has been verified are not covered under the terms of the New Vehicle Warranty.
Instructions for Confirming Calibration Verification Number (CVN):
Go to TIS2WEB
Select "Calibration Information (SPS Info)"
Enter VIN
Select "Get Cal ID"
Select "ECM Engine Control Module" or "TCM Transmission Control Module"
Select "Next"
Select "Complete History"
Print
Take the printout to the vehicle along with the Tech 2Ž
Plug in the Tech 2Ž
Go to diagnostics and build the vehicle
Select "Powertrain"
Select "Engine"
*Select "Engine Control Module" or "PCM" or "TCM"
*Select "Module ID Information" or "I/M Information System" if module ID information selection is not available.
*If "I/M information System" was selected in step 15, it may be necessary to select "Vehicle Information" in order to display the calibration information.
Compare the calibration ID and Calibration Verification Numbers (CVN) to the Calibration Verification Numbers (CVN) on the printout.
* Steps may vary by controller.
Although the part numbers will be the same for each, it's the CVN that will determine if the calibration is GM issued. If ALL of the CVN's are EXACTLY the same, the calibration is GM issued.
If the part numbers match and ANY CVN's DO NOT match the printout, it is likely that a non-GM certified calibration has been installed."
"If a suspicious hard part failure is observed in the engine, transmission, transfer case or driveline, perform the calibration verification described to determine if a non-GM issued engine calibration is installed. Non-GM issued engine calibrations subject driveline components to stresses different from the calibrations that these components were validated to. Repairs to engine, transmission, transfer case and/or other driveline components where a non-GM engine calibration has been verified are not covered under the terms of the New Vehicle Warranty.
Instructions for Confirming Calibration Verification Number (CVN):
Go to TIS2WEB
Select "Calibration Information (SPS Info)"
Enter VIN
Select "Get Cal ID"
Select "ECM Engine Control Module" or "TCM Transmission Control Module"
Select "Next"
Select "Complete History"
Take the printout to the vehicle along with the Tech 2Ž
Plug in the Tech 2Ž
Go to diagnostics and build the vehicle
Select "Powertrain"
Select "Engine"
*Select "Engine Control Module" or "PCM" or "TCM"
*Select "Module ID Information" or "I/M Information System" if module ID information selection is not available.
*If "I/M information System" was selected in step 15, it may be necessary to select "Vehicle Information" in order to display the calibration information.
Compare the calibration ID and Calibration Verification Numbers (CVN) to the Calibration Verification Numbers (CVN) on the printout.
* Steps may vary by controller.
Although the part numbers will be the same for each, it's the CVN that will determine if the calibration is GM issued. If ALL of the CVN's are EXACTLY the same, the calibration is GM issued.
If the part numbers match and ANY CVN's DO NOT match the printout, it is likely that a non-GM certified calibration has been installed."
correct, and thank a Diesel guy with a Bully Dog or Banks kit for this the next time you see him
hmm wonder if that dealership u talked to really knows. Cause i got diffrent info from crate engine depot.
Hi Cory,
This kit will also include a replacement cold air intake tube, I dont have pricing as of yet and we are still looking at March for a release date.
I will post this up on the forums once the kit is released.
So i guess time will tell, i got this info 2 days ago
Hi Cory,
This kit will also include a replacement cold air intake tube, I dont have pricing as of yet and we are still looking at March for a release date.
I will post this up on the forums once the kit is released.
So i guess time will tell, i got this info 2 days ago
hmm wonder if that dealership u talked to really knows. Cause i got diffrent info from crate engine depot.
Hi Cory,
This kit will also include a replacement cold air intake tube, I dont have pricing as of yet and we are still looking at March for a release date.
I will post this up on the forums once the kit is released.
So i guess time will tell, i got this info 2 days ago
Hi Cory,
This kit will also include a replacement cold air intake tube, I dont have pricing as of yet and we are still looking at March for a release date.
I will post this up on the forums once the kit is released.
So i guess time will tell, i got this info 2 days ago
anyways, good idea. 2 PCM's are better than one. Thats why I have a stock one, and an "other" PCM as well.
Sounds good in theory but GM has found a way around that problem too. If you buy a new ECM you have to bring it to the dealer because the clutch position sensor is not programmed into the new ECM. So that wont go over too well
He could always tell them that hes not sure whats going on with it, bring it in, and they flash the clutch thinking something is wrong with his car. Meanwhile he now has 2 functional PCM's.

or maybe he could drive it in, change out the PCM and ask for an update.
On-Star spillin the beans
Anyone else getting On-Star reports on their cars via email?
It appears that On-Star reports all kinds of info to Chevy without our permission or even knowledge. Info like air-to-fuel mix, etc.
As such, I'm under the impression that Chevy will know that a diff ECU has been installed and/or a new map is controlling the engine as soon as On-Star diagnostics are relayed to them via satalite (something done at least monthly).
Please correct me if I'm wrong on this.
If I'm correct, Chevy may not report that they have this data immediately but, instead, hold on to info until it is needed-(i.e., when you go into have an expensive repair done and they check the records on the car as a means of denying the repair under warranty).
It appears that On-Star reports all kinds of info to Chevy without our permission or even knowledge. Info like air-to-fuel mix, etc.
As such, I'm under the impression that Chevy will know that a diff ECU has been installed and/or a new map is controlling the engine as soon as On-Star diagnostics are relayed to them via satalite (something done at least monthly).
Please correct me if I'm wrong on this.
If I'm correct, Chevy may not report that they have this data immediately but, instead, hold on to info until it is needed-(i.e., when you go into have an expensive repair done and they check the records on the car as a means of denying the repair under warranty).
I have an answer for you all! I talked to GMPD (General Motors Performance Division) today. There are some bugs with the tuning aspect of the upgrade for the cobalt's. They are currently finishing them up. They told me today to expect it by end of April early March. Hope this answers questions. They also told me range in price is around $650 but no guarantees.
I have an answer for you all! I talked to GMPD (General Motors Performance Division) today. There are some bugs with the tuning aspect of the upgrade for the cobalt's. They are currently finishing them up. They told me today to expect it by end of April early March. Hope this answers questions. They also told me range in price is around $650 but no guarantees.
U NEED TO TYPE LOUDER!
Mitsus, Scoobys, Cobras, Lightnings (oh, especially Lightnings), just about everything, if you've been playing with the ECU or the blower pulley or the wastegate or whatever, you'd fall into the "we're going to deny this until you prove you DIDN'T break it."
And it's perfectly reasonable to do so.
You build a car and you sell it and what you charge for it includes some margin to cover what you figure you're going to have to pay out in warranty repairs. If you're gonna cover the guys who scatter a $5000 (or $25000) engine all over the pavement with too much pulley or too many revs, you're gonna have to jack the price of the car by a thousand bucks.
So, from my standpoint - I have no problem with you pumping up your car, but if something breaks, get out your own wallet and don't try to drop those costs in the lap of every other buyer.
There's a line, though, between damage that can reasonably be assumed to come from modifications vs damage from hard use of what the factory gives you. The crap Nissan's pulled with the glass-jawed GT-R transmission is silly. And GM's policy in this area, from what I can tell, is very good.


