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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Chase0224
its still nasty fast.
Oh lord yes. I will be going with an EFR on my new ride in the future.
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 12:22 PM
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The ZFR spools as fast as the K04, possibly slightly faster. You have to remember that spool time and boost threshold are two different things. If you went wot at 4500 RPM, the ZFR would spool faster than the K04, but the K04 might start spooling at 1600 RPM, where the ZFR needs to be above 2000 rpm, for example. Those aren't exact numbers, just an explanation.
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt M
The ZFR spools as fast as the K04, possibly slightly faster. You have to remember that spool time and boost threshold are two different things. If you went wot at 4500 RPM, the ZFR would spool faster than the K04, but the K04 might start spooling at 1600 RPM, where the ZFR needs to be above 2000 rpm, for example. Those aren't exact numbers, just an explanation.
I totally understand that part. Those are two different things. Just wondering about in general spool time for boost, not peak boost etc. I want it now.
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 03:01 PM
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So apparently people are having the ZFR installed already?
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sponge14
So apparently people are having the ZFR installed already?
I think only 2 people have it besides the ppl at ZZP. I better be the third lol
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 03:45 PM
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So apparently people are having the ZFR installed already?
Somebody got one on Black Friday, didn't they?
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt M
So what exactly are the specs?

Is it a new turbine wheel, compressor wheel and EFR compressor housing on a stock turbine housing?

What size wheels?
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 07:36 PM
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It's a bw efr6758 with a custom turbine housing that bolts to the stock manifold and o2 housing. They also had to develop the pieces for wastegate control because the stock efr stuff didn't work in our application.
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 10:07 PM
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I wonder if they keeping the twin scroll design....
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 10:14 PM
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Possibly. I'll let them chime in on that but it's honestly not needed
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Miko

60 pages of posts summed up perfectly
This should have been posted long ago lmao!
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Old May 2, 2012 | 02:00 PM
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Price

Hello...I have an LT with an LNF (10k miles--still need LSD tranny)sitting in my garage waiting to be dropped in...After skimming through this thread with over 60 pages going back over a year I still cant find a price for this impressive ZZP upgrade...(Is it even out yet??? after more than a year of the first introduction)...
Maybe I missed it....Anyone?????
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Old May 2, 2012 | 02:14 PM
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Not released yet with no firm price.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 02:30 PM
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We have been selling them, but not to the general public. They are still being tested since we can't get the efr part in high quantity yet anyway.

The thing that I don't like about a lot of people's attitude is that we never said anything about releasing these when I first posted about it. The thread was simply a post to say hey, check out these EFR turbos and look what they can do on an LNF, and look what we did in order to bolt one on. I had no idea the demand would be so high for them, but since it was, we went through the normal process of design, manufacture, test, modify, manufacture, test, test, test some more, mass produce, test some more, and now we are coming to the point where they will soon be available. Simply manufacturing something quickly that sort of bolts up and performs alright was not an option for us. We wanted to do this the right way.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt M
We have been selling them, but not to the general public. They are still being tested since we can't get the efr part in high quantity yet anyway.

The thing that I don't like about a lot of people's attitude is that we never said anything about releasing these when I first posted about it. The thread was simply a post to say hey, check out these EFR turbos and look what they can do on an LNF, and look what we did in order to bolt one on. I had no idea the demand would be so high for them, but since it was, we went through the normal process of design, manufacture, test, modify, manufacture, test, test, test some more, mass produce, test some more, and now we are coming to the point where they will soon be available. Simply manufacturing something quickly that sort of bolts up and performs alright was not an option for us. We wanted to do this the right way.
And I'm patiently waiting. Take your time. Make it right. Anything of quality takes time. I'll still be here foaming at the mouth waiting for the day I can hit add to cart!
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Old May 2, 2012 | 03:51 PM
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how do you get considered to not be general public lol
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Old May 2, 2012 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JacBlackSS/TC
how do you get considered to not be general public lol
Spend a lot of money on ZZP parts.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SSlobalt
Spend a lot of money on ZZP parts.
Still not enough. Ive spent $5k + and still about to add another $1k for cams in the next week maybe 2 at most. Plus ill need a built block shortly... and that stage 2 transmission....

I think if i lived in IL it would be different, i could just hassle them in person for cam phasers, more aggressive cams, prototype parts. :p I am more than willing to blow **** up in the pursuit of power.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ford
Still not enough. Ive spent $5k + and still about to add another $1k for cams in the next week maybe 2 at most. Plus ill need a built block shortly... and that stage 2 transmission....

I think if i lived in IL it would be different, i could just hassle them in person for cam phasers, more aggressive cams, prototype parts. :p I am more than willing to blow **** up in the pursuit of power.
5k? pshh thats pocket change Your not even on the bronze frequent buyer card lol jk
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Old May 2, 2012 | 08:17 PM
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Plus you'd need to be in Michigan unless you like long drives for hassling.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Chase0224
5k? pshh thats pocket change Your not even on the bronze frequent buyer card lol jk
Get back to me when ive owned the car longer than 5 months...

Ive spent more on a Lt1 car than most spent on their cars. Im just getting warmed up on the cobalt and it's only taken this long because i built a new house. :p
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Old May 2, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ford
Get back to me when ive owned the car longer than 5 months...

Ive spent more on a Lt1 car than most spent on their cars. Im just getting warmed up on the cobalt and it's only taken this long because i built a new house. :p
i know im just messing with you
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Old May 2, 2012 | 10:05 PM
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You guys are bragging about going into debt. Nice!
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Old May 2, 2012 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Frogstofall
You guys are bragging about going into debt. Nice!
Yep and give it a year and they will regret spending all that money on a cobalt.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 10:10 PM
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Since Matt showed us the exhaust housing during the LNF meet - it's worth the wait guys..

IMO - I rather wait for a fully functional product that's been fully tested from every single aspect, I think no one would want to purchase a product that's not been fully tested to the extremes?? Look at Borg Warner they tested the snot out of EFR before ever speaking a word of it, and that testing cycle took 14+ months.. just think - these guys where testing, arguably one of the top ten turbos of all times and nobody ever knew a 1 year ago.. and look at it now, that turbo is winning awards in every country in the world..

Matt, Ryan & Zoom are doing this the right way, they want to make sure this product is solid - period. And after speaking with Matt & Zoom, the future looks great for us, they are going places [huge shop], in the future they are going to design & build more solid products that will push the ECOtec platform to new heights.. trust me.
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