Matt/Ryan@zzp has gone as high 600+ hp/tq on a stock engine before the rods gave out on the LNF.. but this was from doing back to back dyno runs.. which helped in getting the rods to break a eventually.. and thanks to ZZP we all have a better understanding what kind of beating this 4 banger can do [LNF/LSJ/2.2/2.4]..

IMO, this engine [LNF] can withstand up to 500 - 575 HP/TQ @30PSI on stock internals, before it can go into the "danger zone [top gun theme here] 600+ HP/TQ @35+PSI" , but in all serious - if setup properly with a less aggressive tune @26-30 PSI, it can last for along time, as long as the driver isn't beating the snot of out of the car..

in my case, i was using 75/100 shot of NOS and e47/e85R/260GT/C16, and aggressive tunes, which added more duress to the components.. ring landings, clutches, valve coking, heat cycling, timing chain, HPFP.. but i was fully aware - you got to pay to play..

 

Anyone pushing the LNF into that WHP range will eventually have a busted ringland. It's not the pistons themselves or other intersnals(although the hypereutectic pistons we have are strong but friagile) The rings are just too tightly gapped on the LNF for that kind of power. Obviously, if you are making that kind of power you can assume that the owner is/will drive her hard.

So, can it handle the power? Yes. For how long? Depends on the driver.

 

true true, unfortunately

 

Makes you wonder if somebody could just "trim the rings" on a stock piston setup, huh... lol

 

400ish/400ish is completely safe with a good tune. You don't need to beat the car with that much power and I rarely go past 1/4 throttle.

 

That's you though. Most are gonna race a lot when they finally hit the power level they are after. Lets face it, we do it so we can show that ******* in the (insert car name here) from last weekend what's up.

 

Antone, you got the new car yet? I finally got my new wastegate in for my 25g again... 63mm wheel this time around... I've been thinking of selling it and buying another Vw or get another cobalt.. I don't usually own cars for. More then a year and I've surpassed two years lol

 

Nope, gotta keep the Balt.

 

keep the balt or go mk4 VR6 24v or mk4 r32 turbo them and tune it yourself. I would do that If I had the connects and skills you do.


Sorry to thread jack lol.

 

I always show that ******* whats up lol, but doesn't mean you have to pound the **** out of it 24/7.

 

I love my wife's golf but if I get one it'll be a 1.8 or 2.0 . The platform has a wide variety of tuning programs and more parts...

 

Mkv 2.0 FSI.

 

I would agree to disagree. While YES, there are a lot of company's available for the VW world for tunes, most work on a Canned tune level(Unitronic, APR,REVO, Eurodyn, GIAC etc). You simply follow a receipe that they give you, you buy the parts and then tune and your done.

The problem with that? 1.) Almost all companies show your crank horspower and never whp 2.) You will be paying an arm and a leg for everything(Turbo kit for R32 haha...GT28-30 kit for Mk5-6 2.0 hahahaha) 3.) All diagnostics must be performed via VAG which is one of the most annoying and OLD OBDII programs there is 4.) The "Bang for the buck" performance wise is no where near what you would get via other platforms 5.) Custom tuning??? ummmm ok so you have Eurodyn's "Maestro" custom tuning software.... leaves you astray as you could only manipulate some parameters and have to use it in conjunction with VAG(gay as AIDS). You also have custom ECU's that you can get where THEN you can use decent software... be ready to fork over 4k, not to include having factor in the cost for fab work of the ECU's sensors(MAP, MAF etc). I can understand if you do all the work yourself, but when you are an average joe that can take care of bolt-on and head work but want forged pistons and rods, yea shops will charge you 4-8k in just work because its "engine work" and ITS A VW.

The cars do look great, I have a MK4 GLi and its a looker but that's where everything stops. Its a great car for getting from A to B. Is it reliable, NO, does it steal money from me every month? YES. VW is not what people make it out to be, parts are stupid expensive for even small stuff.

Last, I don't give a **** about how nice the interior is to justify all the other downsides?? Its a fun daily driver but that's it. If you get a MK4, be prepared for everyone that gets in your MK4 to tell you that it smells like crayon's(I don't know how many dates have started out that way). I always get VW **** throwing the sticks(a V..yes, that gay) and I usually flip them off just to see the confusion on their faces. Or when Im approached by some wanting to know about the Gli and what I've done to it, I tell them pretty much what I wrote here. I'm just tired of VW fanboys. 85% of them are cocky douche bags that want to rock Herra flush bbs/fake bbs with half a bike mounted on the roof and 205's on 10" wide wheels..... amazing!!

 

YES! Finally somebody who understands! Other people who drive VWs always seem to not know what I'm talking about when I hop in their car. I was beginning to think it was only me! lol

 

VW owners are asshats.

 

I already have the mk4 remember.. The aftermarket prices I should say are horrid on the vr6s. My thought lol...

 

truth

 

LOL they had their H20 Show in Ocean city md (VW only show) while i was home...on the way to the airport i counted 6 VWs on the side of the road jacked up with someone underneath. Its funny they have a show that 1/4 of them cant even make it to without fixing something

 

the dedication in that community is insane tho. the H2Oi "show" is a euro car meet, not just VWs. and now just about every type of car is welcome down there, except stock ones. people in that community come from far & wide just for a weekend with each other, it's actually really cool to see the cars going down the highways throughout the week. but yea, some of what they're doing with their cars is crazy and most are constantly fixing or tweaking something. i enjoy teasing my friends about some of the things they do to their cars.

anywho, this is the ZFR thread, right? no more VW talk, more ZZP awesomeness.

 

For the kappa owners, it's not looking good. The waste gate sits down and out farther from the compressor than stock, and on the kappa it puts it almost right in the frame. The only thing I can try is to disconnect the passenger side mount and jack the motor, or loosen the wastegate bracket and see if i can sneak it in and see if the bracket will go back on.


I'm open to any suggestions from ZZP or other kappa owners. I really want to make this work, but if it doesn't fit, it doesn't fit.

 

Maybe a modified wastegate bracket would do the trick?

 

I'm going to loosen the bracket and see if it will otherwise fit. If it doesn't, I'll take pics of the interference and maybe ZZP can use them accordingly. My dilemma is I'm so hyped about getting one of these turbos up and running on the car and there is only one other option available...

Hopefully IF it doesn't fit I can work something out with ZZP and send it back for a straight up EFR 6758 and work on other options. Otherwise I'm going to have to try to sell it here at a loss...

 

Well, let's go ahead and confirm that the ZFR does not fit the kappa chassis.



The picture shows that in order to mount the turbo to the manifold, the wastegate actuator bracket has to be unbolted and moved a pretty good distance from the housing. With the wastegate actuator bracket attached, it interferes big time with the frame There is really no way it can work. I've emailed ZZP customer service to inquire about a possible exchange. I'm really hoping they will work with me on this since it was the first kappa test fitment as far as I know.

After the exchange is resolved I'll have to go with a complete kit - turbo header, downpipe, intake, hot side, and unmodified EFR 6758.

 

If the problem is only the wastegate canister and/or bracket, we should be able to get around that. We could re-clock the arm for the wastegate door and move the canister.

 

Damn, good job for having the ***** to test it out. I hope you and ZZP figure it out though. It shouldn't be that hard of a problem, it's only the wastegate not the actual turbo housing or anything.