2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

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Old 09-28-2007, 02:44 PM
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hey paul is there any chance of CA selling the kit w/o a turbo?I have a friend that wants a kit and will buy the CA one but he also already has a GT2871 turbo, so do you know if they will sell him a kit w/o the turbo a discounted price, and how much you think it will run?
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Paul, I have a few questions for you. I already have axles, clutch/flywheel and solid mounts. My drivetrain is strong so if I wanted to do a turbo swap along with internal work I could see over 350whp? I'm guessing with lower compression pistons with a forged motor and the right turbo and of course tunning I could see over 350whp+?
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Originally Posted by Edubs
No disrespect, but drop it everyone...

This is Paul's thread about his turbo, not a thread comparing LSJ's to LE5's. Go start your own thread if you want to debate that.

Anywho, Paul, are you going to be tuning it w/ the Meth right away?
Well said! I was just trying to counter the haters is all, never ment any disrespect to Paul who has a killer set-up.
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Originally Posted by R&C_rallySS
Paul, I have a few questions for you. I already have axles, clutch/flywheel and solid mounts. My drivetrain is strong so if I wanted to do a turbo swap along with internal work I could see over 350whp? I'm guessing with lower compression pistons with a forged motor and the right turbo and of course tunning I could see over 350whp+?
First things first, I still don't know what our tranny;s will hold, seen so many blown ones stock. I have upgraded axles myself, but still pushing the limits of the stock clutch. I think your drivetrain should handle the power, it's just what will the pistons take for an extended period of time, know one really knows that yet,, but trust me I am trying to find out.


As for buying the kit without the turbo, I"ll find out for ya, probably be able to get it for @$500 cheaper or so, but don't quote me on that as I haven't discussed that issue with Kenny yet.
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Originally Posted by intense_SS
yea thats what i am running, A gt2871r turbo, so i am thinking it will be a monster at the autocross track! cant wait till its done! Oh and my friend has a cobalt ss/sc as well and he already has a gt28 turbo and he wants to swap it onto his cobalt, so will CA sell the kit to him w/o the turbo at a discount u think?
I was screwin' around with compressor maps today when I was "working," and throwing some of my typical gorilla math into the mix.

What I came up w/ was that the GT2871R-472560-15 would be a nice fit for a LSJ lookin' to push about 350-375whp. Especially one looking to keep a somewhat decent throttle response for road-track and street applications. It would definately take a very well thought-out setup that took advantage of the tight spaces in our engine bay and keep pressure loss to a minimum and volumetric efficiency at a maximum.

BTW - whoever was asking about deleting the stock Lower I.M., you would probably gain 15-20 degrees IAT2. I would expect to see 100-115 depending on the size intercooler used and charge piping material...
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with the IAT temps you hit it right on the head.... seeing btwn 15-25 degree drop after it. I think it's worth it.
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so you would recommend upgrading the axles with the turbo kit then?
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I would recommend upgrading the axles if you were stock... they're made like toothpicks. They didn't even make it through the water box at atco with rolling in on the throttle (Atco you can't go around the water box)
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I'm really curious to see if Bill Hahn Jr.'s theory about the stock I.M. and it's inefficiencies plays into the troubles w/ #4...
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hmmm that is a thought.... I gotta figure out a way to measure flow. my friend has a flow bench at his house, see I can get him to test it out.
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You don't know how amazing it would be to actually have solid numbers to assess what our strengths and weaknesses are in the induction end of this thang...

I would love to see a comparison of our stock Lower I.M. to the Hahn manifold.
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yeah I might have to con my friend into doing that for me, just really don't want to pull the car apart again (like the 30th+ time now lol). If I can get my hands on a spare that would be cool too
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C'mon, what's a 31st time? Takes like 20 minutes to tear out...
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lol true... just a little bit harder to navigate my engine compartment these day.

btw found the last exhaust leak... damn wastgate flange, Got it a little better tonight, but working on rediculously hot piping in the dark isnt the best idea. Puttin her up on jackstands tomorrow to tackle anything else I can find wrong
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pauls turbo 2.0
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lol.... yay we have a winner
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^ huh?

Sounds great Paul, get that camera working then! Can't wait to hear how you make out!
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hey guys..im gonna be gettin some video of paul and his car 2nite...ill try to post it up 2nite...
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good **** man, make sure to post it in this thread and on something I can embed off of.
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yeah it put it on youtube..then ill post it on here...ill leave a lil early 2nite so i can put it up for u...
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just make sure not to post those "personal" vids you have on that tape lol
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yeah man, don't want to see those by "accident" lol
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I have an extra intake manifold. I'll see if Basco Racing can flowbench it when they flow bench Blown 4-banger's head.
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Get a few different vids if you can. Indide windows up/down and drive-buy... That would be sweet!
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see how bad the cops are out tonight first due to last weekend in the month. But I"ll definitely get something up. I'll see about the incar, with the wastegate leak, it sounds kinda shitty til you get into boost, then it just sounds like a jet


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