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Originally Posted by NightmareRacing
I've eaten plenty of 300fwhp cars, they are no where close, nor remotly keeping up by any imaginastion, even when given a 4 car head start and 8 cars behind me after that isn't "close" --once more just givin ya $hit -- (although that ^^^ did really happen...with a Skittle (aka SRT4) )
but I do understand (and apriciate) what you are saying about having a "one off" cobalt in the area...it'll be stout!
and I understand also when you compare fuel mileage (hey I have great mileage with the BB I'm still in miles per gallon and no gallon per miles
)Wirering issues? naaaawwwww it couldn't be lol I have NO wirering issue on my camaro lol
nah man I understand
but I do know as well that you'll want more and more power and then you'll reach the point where well, automatic lane changes will happen on teh down shift and scare the crap outta ya (especially when racing another car) and then you'll kinda have to stop there...my bud stoped at 390fwhp, car ran 12.3 (I think) and it broke most everytime, until he almost cliped the guy next to him on the street (the overstear issue of fwd). Parted the car the next day, put it back to almost stock, sold it, bought an LS1 car and ran 12.3 with headers and a converter...he is on the way to 10.9's with 1/2 the cost...and still wonder wtf he didn't do it sooner...oh and it was an SRT4, only way he could race was on a 50mph role, from the dig, the car couldn't hook (unless at the track with slicks on)...I still found his car prety insane tho... any time you do some extreme power mods to a car you have to follow with handleing, mods as well. which is why his times were so high. if he was putting down 390WHP he should have been doing much better then 12.3s 1/4.
plus the neon has a much flimsier frame then the Delta.
best example you'll see of that is any crash test
something you should be thinking about to Victory Red, I know there isn't much out right now
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Careful about big ported heads, unless you plan on not driving it day to day, race only. You want something thats more concentrated on velocity, not volume. Look for combustion chamber work (like deshrouding the valves), and minor port work. You get a double bonus with chamber work, deshrouded valves help air flow, and velocity. Plus you get a lower compression ratio= more boost!
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
This is not going to be a 300whp fwd car. Try 550 when all is said and done. Give it time and wait for the magazine articles
sweet!, and how exactly do you plan on hooking 550 fwhp? by having 12" slicks up front and skinnies out back, and in the process of running a 10 flat call your car a "street" car? or are you making your car race only? I mean no flame, but I get very anoyed at people (don't mater if they are v8 guys or v6 or 4cyl or jet cars) that claim they have a 8 sec street car (or what ever super fast time it is for your given car) but really, the damn thing can't handle staying idled, idle at light, and stay cool, nor has any manners for "street driving" (aka won't be happy until turning at least 4000rpms) and etc... so I'm just intrigued on how you are planning on puting that much power to the grown (I am honestly very curious about it, by pure curiousity only, once more, no flaming) because I have no idea how anyone can do that without looking ridiculous or be remotly street legal (aka them funny "wheely bars" looking things about back for fwd that actually pushes the car front end down--err something--)
you could be the first 550hpfwd I beat too --now I'm just flaming ya for fun
--but seriously...details?
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this car is being built to have a twincharged setup on it as well as the many goodies being done. As for tires on the track yes big tires on the front and skinnies on the back. I am going with custom driveshafts to handle the power as well as suspension mods.
For the street I will get good tires but I don't race on the street just drive fast Now just so we are clear I have made no claims on what times I will get with the car. That will never be my style. The time slips will speak for themselves (good or bad)
For the street I will get good tires but I don't race on the street just drive fast
Now just so we are clear I have made no claims on what times I will get with the car. That will never be my style. The time slips will speak for themselves (good or bad)
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Originally Posted by NightmareRacing
I've eaten plenty of 300fwhp cars, they are no where close, nor remotly keeping up by any imaginastion, even when given a 4 car head start and 8 cars behind me after that isn't "close" --once more just givin ya $hit -- (although that ^^^ did really happen...with a Skittle (aka SRT4) )
but I do understand (and apriciate) what you are saying about having a "one off" cobalt in the area...it'll be stout!
and I understand also when you compare fuel mileage (hey I have great mileage with the BB I'm still in miles per gallon and no gallon per miles
)Wirering issues? naaaawwwww it couldn't be lol I have NO wirering issue on my camaro lol
nah man I understand
but I do know as well that you'll want more and more power and then you'll reach the point where well, automatic lane changes will happen on teh down shift and scare the crap outta ya (especially when racing another car) and then you'll kinda have to stop there...my bud stoped at 390fwhp, car ran 12.3 (I think) and it broke most everytime, until he almost cliped the guy next to him on the street (the overstear issue of fwd). Parted the car the next day, put it back to almost stock, sold it, bought an LS1 car and ran 12.3 with headers and a converter...he is on the way to 10.9's with 1/2 the cost...and still wonder wtf he didn't do it sooner...oh and it was an SRT4, only way he could race was on a 50mph role, from the dig, the car couldn't hook (unless at the track with slicks on)...I still found his car prety insane tho... I'll take a 4 car spot against you, it might get very ugly for you, you better trap well into the 140's to try and run me down. Your friends 390hp SRT isn't that strong. On full boost I do not switch lanes from torque steer thats a crock of BS. My car is more then capable of racing from a dig, in fact, I prefer it. The car does spin alittle but yet still will hook and accelerate like crazy, sounds like your friend (if this story is even true) has no clue on how to launch a high hp fwd car.
My SRT and your friends SRT which you base all your fwd knowledge on are two different ball games.
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concidering I was there, it is a true story....you're telling me your SRT4 is traping at 140?? I want pics of the car and the time slip if it is about an SRT4 you are talking about, and if you dare bringing something that is remotly resembling a Pro Stock car I will slap you silly
and yes I've only had 2 friends with SRT4 and they said the same thing to me, and if you had read my post, I did mention that I didn't know much about fwd power....so post up pics and enlight me!
and yes I've only had 2 friends with SRT4 and they said the same thing to me, and if you had read my post, I did mention that I didn't know much about fwd power....so post up pics and enlight me!
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Originally Posted by NightmareRacing
concidering I was there, it is a true story....you're telling me your SRT4 is traping at 140?? I want pics of the car and the time slip if it is about an SRT4 you are talking about, and if you dare bringing something that is remotly resembling a Pro Stock car I will slap you silly
and yes I've only had 2 friends with SRT4 and they said the same thing to me, and if you had read my post, I did mention that I didn't know much about fwd power....so post up pics and enlight me!
and yes I've only had 2 friends with SRT4 and they said the same thing to me, and if you had read my post, I did mention that I didn't know much about fwd power....so post up pics and enlight me!
I didn't say a SRT trapped 140, I did say if you spot me 4 cars, you better trap in that range to catch me...
well, I probably make more hp and chances are my car is lighter then your two friends in question, my car does indeed torque steer, but not to the point of uncontrollably causing me to switch lanes, but heck I'm only a girl, maybe I can hold onto the steering whell much stronger then your friends...
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Originally Posted by NightmareRacing
so what is it that you are traping at?
I have yet to run my car at its new power levels, I can only say with 150 less hp and a heavier car to boot, it trapped 125mph at a DA of 7500ft.
at the old power levels and this altitude, to give me a 4 car jump would have made it very diffulcult for you, now, it would even be harder..
Mr. Trujillo...
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sweet, then you don't need 4 car hit until I'd flip the switch!
so how do you get a fwd car to hook and pull a 1.5 60' time? like how do you fight the weight wanting to move back and onto the rear wheels? --just curious cuz I really don't know!--
so how do you get a fwd car to hook and pull a 1.5 60' time? like how do you fight the weight wanting to move back and onto the rear wheels? --just curious cuz I really don't know!--
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Originally Posted by NightmareRacing
sweet, then you don't need 4 car hit until I'd flip the switch!
so how do you get a fwd car to hook and pull a 1.5 60' time? like how do you fight the weight wanting to move back and onto the rear wheels? --just curious cuz I really don't know!--
so how do you get a fwd car to hook and pull a 1.5 60' time? like how do you fight the weight wanting to move back and onto the rear wheels? --just curious cuz I really don't know!--
A 1.5 60' time is a dream for me....
the best the car has done is a 1.81....
I don't even have a LSD in this thing.....
Solid Technology came up with a rear suspension lockout device that prevents rear end squat keeping all the power on the front wheels. This device is fully adjustable, though for drag runs at the strip I do set my rear rather high, as seen in this image...
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Originally Posted by NightmareRacing
sweet, then you don't need 4 car hit until I'd flip the switch!
so how do you get a fwd car to hook and pull a 1.5 60' time? like how do you fight the weight wanting to move back and onto the rear wheels? --just curious cuz I really don't know!--
so how do you get a fwd car to hook and pull a 1.5 60' time? like how do you fight the weight wanting to move back and onto the rear wheels? --just curious cuz I really don't know!--
There are other suspension tricks. Really, really stiff rear suspension. Soft front. Similar to RWD but opposite.
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
i agree i shouldent have said that it was very uncalled for i appologize for the comment victory
john
john
This was/is a very nice act on your part..
most excellent.....
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
i agree i shouldent have said that it was very uncalled for i appologize for the comment victory
john
john
Originally Posted by LittleMT
This was/is a very nice act on your part..
most excellent.....
most excellent.....
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
I agree LittleMT and thank you john,
rod
rod
anyways, I am very excited about your project, I wish you the best, I hope you can make
the kind of power that will make us proud!
Good luck, mi amigo.......
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Originally Posted by CobaltSonOfS.A.M.
Careful about big ported heads, unless you plan on not driving it day to day, race only. You want something thats more concentrated on velocity, not volume. Look for combustion chamber work (like deshrouding the valves), and minor port work. You get a double bonus with chamber work, deshrouded valves help air flow, and velocity. Plus you get a lower compression ratio= more boost!
AND
Most everyone is going "the other way" when it comes to compression ratio. Many of the race Ecotecs are at 12:1 and running 30+ psi. I know of at least 2 LSJ engine projects on this board that are going with the 10.5:1 Diamonds (INTENSE sells them) with no plans on dialing back boost (providing detonation can be held in check of course via a combination of via octane, HPT control of the timing tables, and if necc possibly water/alk injection)
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Originally Posted by WopOnTour
Most everyone is going "the other way" when it comes to compression ratio. The race Ecotecs are at 12:1 and running 30+ psi. I know of at least 2 LSJ engine projects on this board that are going with the 12.5:1 Diamonds (INTENSE sells them)
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Originally Posted by LittleMT
A 1.5 60' time is a dream for me....
the best the car has done is a 1.81....
I don't even have a LSD in this thing.....
Solid Technology came up with a rear suspension lockout device that prevents rear end squat keeping all the power on the front wheels. This device is fully adjustable, though for drag runs at the strip I do set my rear rather high, as seen in this image...
the best the car has done is a 1.81....
I don't even have a LSD in this thing.....
Solid Technology came up with a rear suspension lockout device that prevents rear end squat keeping all the power on the front wheels. This device is fully adjustable, though for drag runs at the strip I do set my rear rather high, as seen in this image...
neet! thanks for the info!
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