Is that the realtime racing RSX and TSX?

 

True, true, but couldn't the same be said about them using the Honda powerplant?
Oh and yes...the Ultima GTR owns lol. Sigh I wish I was rich.

 

True.

They aren't that expensive when compared to other cars. 80k last time I checked. Fastest 0-100-0 of any production car.

 

Nope Bill Fenton.

I believe VIR was the only race where the Honda came out ahead and I think that the Cobalt that usually comes out on top wasn't in the race.

I got speed channel now so at least I can watch the 2006 season.

 

Holy crap, I didn't know they were that "cheap", sure are amazing cars. I love how there website has a list of every possible option available.

 

Yeah It is my personal opinion.... I never said it cant be done....everything can be done.
You can turbocharge any car you want with the right money.
What I said is its gonna blow up...It cant last...It cant handle it....Its not build from factory to handle that much Boost!! thats what I said.

Have you ever seen a honda engine pushed over 8PSI.... Want pictures, I can go to my parents and take pics of my brother's engines in my dads shed.....hes on his 4th engine.
His last being a K series with a 2.4 bottom end from a Odysee Van or something like that he's so gunho on proving to me his civic can go fast!! Any car can be made to go fast when there's no limit in $$$....I remember a 1.3L suzuki swift GT running 30PSI on a built engine...

This whole thread was about a stock RSX K series engine vs a stock LSJ why the K series N/A engine can make 197HP without a supercharger.

To remind you my answer to that was :

DC the LSJ was built for forced induction. Destroked Short strong Rods (2.0L) , Forged Crank, Piston design for cooling, Oil jets for every cylinder, 9.5 Compression ratio, SS valves, etc...etc... of course the engine is not gonna put out crazy horsepower without Forced induction its built for it.....built to take the pressure...stock bottom end and its already been proven to take 19 PSI. Take a Honda engine wich is built to be N/A with all out Horsepower (wich still makes less Torque then the LSJ without a Supercharger) and strap a M-62 supercharger on it and run it to 19 PSI and see what happens....

Take a stock 2.0L LSJ with no supercharger and a stock 2.0L honda Engine K series and run them at full RPM non stop see wich one will die first... point is LSJ is a stronger Engine with more torque regardless of the supercharger.

Take a stock 2.0L Honda engine strap a comptech supercharger on it ...run it at a safe 6-7 PSI and check the compression on the engine after 20-50 000km ....trust me its not pretty I have seen it so many times......ask my Brother in his Civic hybrid turbo....4th engine this year my dad cant wait for him to get rid of those broken pistons , shadered blocks, and bend rods....

Wanna know what Honda does better then any other manufacturer ...the Engine head...they work magic on the Vtec heads.....


Whole point is Both engines have been built for different purposes...1 excels in N/A form and the other in forced induction mode.... 2 different worlds.

Peace am out.....time for bed.

 

What does money have to do with anything? And what does your brother's inability to tune and using the wrong block have to do with anything? Also what does your experience with some motors have to do with every motor?

Please do not back-pedal... someone said a honda motor couldn't take 19psi on a stock motor because LSJs were. DC52NV proved that wrong, that was it. If we want to keep going look at the power difference between the two too. 500+hp with 19psi on a stock motor from the Honda, 270(at the most) with 19psi on a stock motor with the LSJ. PSI isn't the only thing that should have been brought up, compressor size and output should have been too. Not trying to start anything... just saying.

 

Guys keep in mind that psi is just a measure of restriction and isn't at all related to horsepower or torque. 19psi on one motor may make 300hp while on another only 210.

 

Ok so can you explain why the accord hp ratings went from 160 to 166 and from 240 to 244 with no changes to the engine from 2005 to 2006 for the I4 and V6, respectively? With the new SAE standards the Vette Z06 hp went from 500 to 505...judging by your presentation of lying in your post, thats lying too. The horsepower ratings went down on honda's 3.5 motor and up on all of their other ones(2.4, 3.0, etc.) (if I remember correctly) T
They weren't necessarily lying...the testing method changed and the numbers did too...some went down and some when up...besides that we arent talking 50 hp here...more like 1-10 in most cases ive heard of...

This thread seems to be turning into a brawl so maybe we outta learn to state our opinions in a more civil manner before it gets closed

 

The thing that I never understood and maybe you guys can shed some light, why is it that these magazines think that a high reving engine is better than an engine with way more torque and horsepower?

 

Amen to that Denny.

Its obvious the LSJ was built for only one purpose to take forced induction at a limited amount from factory.

For the price the ivtec should be forced induction as well. How come they cant do like GM and forge everything and make a race car out of it? Its just not cut out to be what people want it to be.

 

Glad a least a few here understand. This thread needs to be closed...no point in continying with this.