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08-10-2009, 05:18 PM
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Hey, just wondering if you have any logs from the dyno runs where the AFR was goin crazy on you? Or do you remember what injector pulse width and duty cycles were doing? were they following the fluctuations?
I also had the same lean idle issues. Playing with the pulse width adder a bit and the minimum pulse width improved it somewhat.... maybe an idea to try?
I also had the same lean idle issues. Playing with the pulse width adder a bit and the minimum pulse width improved it somewhat.... maybe an idea to try?
08-10-2009, 05:49 PM
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On the stock header, the afr stayed flat throughout the pull all three times. It also stayed on par with the target afr. with the jbp header though, things were always goofy. On the one run that I have the sheet for, it held in line except for one period of about 300 rpm, between 4600 and 4900 where the afr went lean and came back down.
08-10-2009, 06:58 PM
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Cool, good to see the pics of the header, yes it looks like you recieved a bad header, no excuse for that ****. My header looks nothing like that at all.
First Domin8 this "tool" never made such claim about an m62 and LS4 tb. I never called any tuner out or ****, I said the tune is whak, in all my years I have yet to see a header cause an AFR to change from pull to pull, especially when before the meth problem he drove the car for a week and there is no mention of this problem anywhere!!. Reading and you dont get along, YOU DONT HAVE A CLUE. Second, I am not calling out death, maybe you should continue to read my posts I believe I applauded what he is doing. You guys want to bitch because someone is being critical of the information? Get a life and learn to think for yourselves, followers. Short stack, call the F1 teams and give them your straw theory, then the GT40 engineers etc.
First Domin8 this "tool" never made such claim about an m62 and LS4 tb. I never called any tuner out or ****, I said the tune is whak, in all my years I have yet to see a header cause an AFR to change from pull to pull, especially when before the meth problem he drove the car for a week and there is no mention of this problem anywhere!!. Reading and you dont get along, YOU DONT HAVE A CLUE. Second, I am not calling out death, maybe you should continue to read my posts I believe I applauded what he is doing. You guys want to bitch because someone is being critical of the information? Get a life and learn to think for yourselves, followers. Short stack, call the F1 teams and give them your straw theory, then the GT40 engineers etc.
However, as far as it goes, I'm willing to agree that we are not seeing eye-to-eye on something. And, if you wish to continue this bickering you shoot me a PM. I'm not about to wreck the integrity of this thread anymore. It has been done enough by the both of us. Feel free to send it in English or French. I can read both just fine.
08-10-2009, 07:44 PM
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I think the CTI header will do well also. Gotta rep a company from my home state. 
Alot of people from N.E. run their stuff. I've only heard good things about their products. Clear Image should do very well and pacesetter will most likely be the best bang for the buck. Cant wait to see more results...keep up the great work deathscythe!
Alot of people from N.E. run their stuff. I've only heard good things about their products. Clear Image should do very well and pacesetter will most likely be the best bang for the buck. Cant wait to see more results...keep up the great work deathscythe!
08-10-2009, 08:01 PM
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But were they running the M62, or the TVS? That's why I'm interested in the thread. I think it would be nice to see how the numbers add up. Of course, the TVS is gonna produce more total power, but I think it would give a nice indication where you might see the most gain, i.e, is the Clear Image just as beneficial with the TVS, or mostly for the M62?
08-10-2009, 08:05 PM
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The head was ported by m2race. It's the same company that ottp uses. The flow numbers are on their site. I have to go back and take a look at your recommendation again. After getting a chance to closely observe the header, I'd feel bad to sell this header to someone else. That's not good business. The header could be fixed, but it's going to take some time.
Have you considered sending your pacesetter out here if I can't get anyone else to get onboard with one?
Have you considered sending your pacesetter out here if I can't get anyone else to get onboard with one?
I have gone through hahn shorty header to 2.5 exhaust, Vibrant long tube to 2.5 exhaust and now have CTI with a full 3 inch exhaust. The hahn needed fixing the primaries did not match the flange port. I fixed it and sold it. The Vibrant was pretty good but only 2.5 so I sold it. The CTI is pretty good but the firewall bolt that holds the tunnel heat shield in place has tobe trimmed to clear the flex. The only thing that worries me is the CTI does not have equal length primaries. I think Pacesetter may win your test, but I am seriously interested in your results and thank you again for your worthy efforts.
JBP bunch of bananas bs? massive FAIL.
08-10-2009, 08:16 PM
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hey DS, we need to talk about getting mine out there. i need a header to use in the meantime though. its a ball and socket connection at the end.
and just to clarify i will not use the JBP in the meantime LOL
and just to clarify i will not use the JBP in the meantime LOL
08-10-2009, 08:48 PM
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Hey Stu, be careful with your spelling of the location in your info. Apparently, according to a 1881 Proclamation, it is illegal to misspell and/or pronounce the spelling of that state.
08-10-2009, 09:02 PM
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so i've been following your thread deathscythe. I think what your doing is AWESOME! Also, i was wondering if you have had anybody send you a pacesetter header? I just went turbo and have mine sitting for sale in the garage (100 plus shipping for anybody interested 
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I'd be willing to let you use it as long as i get it back lol... The thing is, its been modified so that the header outlet to the downpipe is a full 3 inches, so it would bolt up to my 3" downpipe.
). I'd be willing to let you use it as long as i get it back lol... The thing is, its been modified so that the header outlet to the downpipe is a full 3 inches, so it would bolt up to my 3" downpipe.
08-10-2009, 09:34 PM
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08-10-2009, 10:06 PM
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I have. All you guys are on a bandwagon against jbp and thats fine. Just reassurance and others who have dynoed the header is better. Most are saying paceheader over CIA and Hahn. Ok let's be real.
08-10-2009, 10:23 PM
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And anyone else that has one that they'd like to donate for what I'm doing, please send me your info in a pm, and I'll respond, preferably with a call.
08-10-2009, 10:25 PM
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I got you. You'll get a pm tonight. And it'll be easier to do yours. I just have to send you my cia header. I got the 4-1 so it'll be an easy fit.
And anyone else that has one that they'd like to donate for what I'm doing, please send me your info in a pm, and I'll respond, preferably with a call.
And anyone else that has one that they'd like to donate for what I'm doing, please send me your info in a pm, and I'll respond, preferably with a call.
08-10-2009, 10:52 PM
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so i've been following your thread deathscythe. I think what your doing is AWESOME! Also, i was wondering if you have had anybody send you a pacesetter header? I just went turbo and have mine sitting for sale in the garage (100 plus shipping for anybody interested ).
I'd be willing to let you use it as long as i get it back lol... The thing is, its been modified so that the header outlet to the downpipe is a full 3 inches, so it would bolt up to my 3" downpipe.
). I'd be willing to let you use it as long as i get it back lol... The thing is, its been modified so that the header outlet to the downpipe is a full 3 inches, so it would bolt up to my 3" downpipe.
Yeah Stu, you'd get it back. Promise.
deathscythe good work and thank you for spending all your money to help out guys.
I have gone through hahn shorty header to 2.5 exhaust, Vibrant long tube to 2.5 exhaust and now have CTI with a full 3 inch exhaust. The hahn needed fixing the primaries did not match the flange port. I fixed it and sold it. The Vibrant was pretty good but only 2.5 so I sold it. The CTI is pretty good but the firewall bolt that holds the tunnel heat shield in place has tobe trimmed to clear the flex. The only thing that worries me is the CTI does not have equal length primaries. I think Pacesetter may win your test, but I am seriously interested in your results and thank you again for your worthy efforts.
JBP bunch of bananas bs? massive FAIL.
I have gone through hahn shorty header to 2.5 exhaust, Vibrant long tube to 2.5 exhaust and now have CTI with a full 3 inch exhaust. The hahn needed fixing the primaries did not match the flange port. I fixed it and sold it. The Vibrant was pretty good but only 2.5 so I sold it. The CTI is pretty good but the firewall bolt that holds the tunnel heat shield in place has tobe trimmed to clear the flex. The only thing that worries me is the CTI does not have equal length primaries. I think Pacesetter may win your test, but I am seriously interested in your results and thank you again for your worthy efforts.
JBP bunch of bananas bs? massive FAIL.
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