i kwno i can get more hp out of a CAI then i would out of that

 

eh... 16 hp out of a CAI? good luck, and let me know which one you got for all that too...

 

LOL, im jsut syaing you get betetr gain otu a 300 $ invetsment then u are with the gm kit....if this is true:S

 

I'm thinkin I just might quit savin and get my exhaust and possibly headers.

 

you goign to be putting down way more with ur mods and depending what pully you have on... so your # will be better then this for sure...

 

Wow tho...if this is true the MOPAR guys are gonna have a field day with this

 

I know we have all been waiting for the stage kits I say we wait a lil longer and the truth will be revealed. And if the truth is 16hp gain I will contact my lawyer and see if we can sue GM

 

Just to let you know... you don't feel horsepower you feel torque.

 

What people need to understand is that dynos do not mean anything. Has anyone taken a stage 2 car to the track yet? Maybe the GM kits are like the Mopar kits for skittles. Stage 2 for SRTs never dyno as well as they run at the track. The reason the Mopar engineers gave is because there is not enough air flow coming into the engine so the PCM cuts back on the boost and dumps a lot of fuel to be safe. Does anyone have any graphs up of the GM stage 2 ? How does the A/F look? How is the torque curve?

 

That is shitty news. As others have stated, the PCM is "new", but with a specific flash designed for this application, the gains should still be better. I hope it does get stronger.

How does "the seat of the pants feel"?

The results are not making me a believer in the stage kits.

 

graphs are here:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...t=16897&page=2

 

Sue them for what????? I hope you are joking. What did GM say the stage kits would put to the wheels around 250-260whp. What did this guy dyno?

 

THATS NOT A STAGE KIT DYNO!!

All that car has is a header and a K&N filter. You guys gotta read before you go "omg wtf"

 

What about that guys post makes you think it isn't a stage 2 dyno?
The title of it is "stage-2 dyno runs" and it is posted in the Stage 2 thread.

http://tinyurl.com/pct9y

 

i hope it gets better.

 

maybe if you put the stg 2 kit on a totally stock cobalt ss/sc the gain will be better...after all GM has tune the kit for a stock car.....but i'm still thinking thats suck badly

 

yeah i think this is a special case. something happened in his situation. but if it says proven Hp. u may have a case of returning the kit maybe because it says 245

 

lets all hope the dyno was sumhow fcuked up... but in the end if thats true it betetr to go with stage 1 with a smaller pully...

 

Arent the intense and riu kits Dyno'n at like 260-270+?
All this for a reflash and warranty? Think i'm leaning towards the aftermarket kits.
Warranty was never a selling point for me so other then the gain in 200-500 for the rev im starting to think the GM kits might not be worth it. Though i will be waiting for more numbers to come in before i make my final choice.

 

All I can say on the matter especially since I don't have mine yet, is that everyone that gets dynoed, post their results so that we get an average gain.

One other factor that could help is if the car has colder plugs and a CAI.....

The most important thing of all for this upgrade is you really feel the difference.

 

this is not good!

 

i love how everyone reacts and hangs on to every word thats typed in these forums. do you even know these people? how do you judge something thats so new and haven't had ENOUGH (keyword) evidence to say otherwise. the swings of these stage kits is horrible. first anticipation for months. then dissapointment. just be patient keyboard commandos all will be well in due time. i trust these kits put out more than what has been shown

 

Good point, I've got my fingers crossed as stage 2 is already on the way for me...

 

The guy who started this thread isn't a bull *******.

 

omg are you serious. Look at the dyno. It stops at 6500 rpm and even says on the bottom, K&N filter and Header.