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Old 02-12-2009, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mrchyzy16
Ya matt had to do the pcm tuning because without it, I was getting a shitload of kr with the gm stage tune. Ya I was hoping to break 250 but all in all, the whole car feels better. Like their is no more "bogging while shifting", it shifts real smooth.

It was like $600 with the parts , install, tuning, and dyno pulls.
did they say what was causing the KR. I got the same thing when I changed out the header, DP. I was able to adjust the KR during the 2nd gear pull but still had some during 3rd.
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
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I guess you do know everything lol.
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Originally Posted by mrchyzy16
I had zzp do a pull with just my gm stg 2 and CAI. I got 239.6whp. Then I had them install the zzp mid-length header/dp combo and their tune and got 246.7whp. What do you guys think?
I think that you should have told me that you weren't coming for my exhaust instead of having me wait for you, only for you not to show up.


I also think that you should have bought my exhaust... as with just my exhaust and Stg2 I put down 263whp 240wtq. Much more than that once tuned.


I guess that's what you get for ******* somebody over.
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god call. might be too large for stg 2 power levels?
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Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP
I think that you should have told me that you weren't coming for my exhaust instead of having me wait for you, only for you not to show up.


I also think that you should have bought my exhaust... as with just my exhaust and Stg2 I put down 263whp 240wtq. Much more than that once tuned.


I guess that's what you get for ******* somebody over.
idk what the story is behind this, but how did he **** u over if he was getting picking parts up from you but didnt show up?

i assume he hadnt paid u yet, and he didnt receive a part so how did anyone get fucked over
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Could be, if he is on stock catback like it was stated the dp tails down to 2.5" at the back end where it meets the res.

Depends on the primary size to, my guess is 1.75" but im not sure.
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Originally Posted by nikebaseballx00
idk what the story is behind this, but how did he **** u over if he was getting picking parts up from you but didnt show up?

i assume he hadnt paid u yet, and he didnt receive a part so how did anyone get fucked over
Long story... but it all comes down to the fact that he could have sent a simple PM or Text to let me know he wasn't coming for it.

Basically, He wanted me to install the exhaust. Okay, no problem... he swore up and down that he was coming. I asked for a deposit to make sure... he said he couldn't use PayPal for some reason, but swore up and down that he was coming. So, my car is on jack stands... and my wheels were getting powdercoated, so I had to go out and buy new jackstands. Jackstands cost money.

I work till 6am and the install was gonna go down at 1pm... so I got 4 hours of sleep and then went and bought the jackstands. Then I sat in my garage twiddling my thumbs for 3 or 4 hours. It was actually a productive day.

Blah blah blah.

I'm not really pissed off, that much... but its a simple goddamn courtesy to send someone a text to let them know you aren't coming for something.
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no.. i would be pissed to...

usmc obviously isnt just bitching and saying he owes him anything... its just a simple courtesy call...
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nice numbers !! thanks for puttin your car on the dyno with just GM Stage 2 and an intake .... i knew it provided good numbers !!! i have been seein some real crappy Stage 2 dyno numbers lately on this site .... like in the 220-225hp range.
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
nice numbers !! thanks for puttin your car on the dyno with just GM Stage 2 and an intake .... i knew it provided good numbers !!! i have been seein some real crappy Stage 2 dyno numbers lately on this site .... like in the 220-225hp range.
A dyno gives numbers... that's all. You can't compare one dyno's results to another dyno's results... especially when you don't know what KIND of dyno it is (Dynapak, Mustang, Dyno-Jet, etc) and when you don't know things like Air Temp, Humidity, Altitude, etc etc etc.

Not to mention, the dyno operator can manipulate those numbers pretty easily.
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Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP
I think that you should have told me that you weren't coming for my exhaust instead of having me wait for you, only for you not to show up.


I also think that you should have bought my exhaust... as with just my exhaust and Stg2 I put down 263whp 240wtq. Much more than that once tuned.


I guess that's what you get for ******* somebody over.
Ouch, yea thats a dickheaded move on the OP's part
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Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP
A dyno gives numbers... that's all. You can't compare one dyno's results to another dyno's results... especially when you don't know what KIND of dyno it is (Dynapak, Mustang, Dyno-Jet, etc) and when you don't know things like Air Temp, Humidity, Altitude, etc etc etc.

Not to mention, the dyno operator can manipulate those numbers pretty easily.
yes exactly, see my post above, I dyno'd low. I don't know how much of that was my tune and how much was simply because it was a different dyno, but a dyno is simply a tool to gauge where you're at. to make sure that you actually gained power and didn't lose it and to see where your powerband is at so you can make tweaks. Also, I dyno'd on a really humid and rainy day... so who knows.
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Originally Posted by Omega_5
I think your about to get a visit from the lynch mob.
Lately CSS has some vendetta against ZZP.... so be prepared for some ******* juvenile comments.

Besides that... good job!
I got my issue resolved with them lickity split. He took care of me right away.

Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP
Not to mention, the dyno operator can manipulate those numbers pretty easily.
I haven't seen any do this in person. How do you think they do it?

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Originally Posted by Psykostevo
I haven't seen any do this in person. How do you think they do it?
change the weight of the car maybe?
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Originally Posted by light'bolt
change the weight of the car maybe?
This has floated the web before and gives some of the ways it can be done

http://www.k20a.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-1598.html
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Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP
A dyno gives numbers... that's all. You can't compare one dyno's results to another dyno's results... especially when you don't know what KIND of dyno it is (Dynapak, Mustang, Dyno-Jet, etc) and when you don't know things like Air Temp, Humidity, Altitude, etc etc etc.

Not to mention, the dyno operator can manipulate those numbers pretty easily.
no **** .... i was just sayin he had nice numbers compared to some of the othes i have seen that is all ....
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Originally Posted by alleycat58
This has floated the web before and gives some of the ways it can be done

http://www.k20a.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-1598.html
Here's a better link...

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1598

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no **** .... i was just sayin he had nice numbers compared to some of the othes i have seen that is all ....
The numbers don't mean ****. You can't say he has nice numbers compared to other people... because you can't compare his numbers to other people's numbers.

In all reality... I'd say those are SHITTY numbers. Dropping $600 and only gaining 8hp? I'd want my money back.
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Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP
In all reality... I'd say those are SHITTY numbers. Dropping $600 and only gaining 8hp? I'd want my money back.
that's is my thought exactly....
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Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP

In all reality... I'd say those are SHITTY numbers. Dropping $600 and only gaining 8hp? I'd want my money back.
Well said
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Only 8 HP? Something doesn't seem right about that........
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omg, usmc > this entire thread lol
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Well **** you very much!
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omg, usmc > this entire thread lol
It's the truth too. Happens to me sometimes. Waiting around making plans with people who flake. Even worse when they fail their appointment and cost you money.
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I never had any problems with ZZP. I personally don't like their headers, but I do love the 3" downpipe with highflow cat. Gained some real nice numbers with the downpipe on GMP exhaust, and GMP exhaust manifold.


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