so as im preparing my list for mods for this upcoming spring, i came across these jbp vortex headers. they are by far the sickest headers ive seen so far but im sure you guys know more than i do. gimme some feedback or opinions.

 

this will probably be the best header out, that will fit in stock location, but your going to have to fork over the coin for it.

but do a search, you'l find a few different threads on it

 

Too pricey, theres other headers for less that do the same and gain you the same.

 

first pic i've seen of it.

def pricey tho

 

As a header being the next mod, which one is the best bang for the buck?? We have an official exhaust thread, we need an official header thread

 

I haven't seen any numbers or reviews by an owner who bought one. Your on uncharted territory.

 

not worth the cost

 

I'm guessing that is an equal length header. The welds on it look pretty good. I'd like to see the collector on it, but i think that might be the first decent looking header i've seen yet.

 

I agree, we need a pic of the collector.

 

I just wish the price on it was a little less.... $700+ seems a bit steep

 

yeah the price is up there but we all gotta admit the craftmanship is outstanding, but like much of u r saying, i dont wana buy this bad boy if it does the same as a $400 header :/
im gonna contact JBP soon and ask them if they have any dyno sheets from customers who bought them and ill deff post it up.

 

jpb craftsmentship is really good. alot of time and effort goes in to R&D for anything they produce, but at a sacrafice of higher prices.....

the collector looks like it is pre made (which is nice because i bet you it is so smooth inside the 3" collector) unlike most out there which cut the pipes and weld together and it looks like ASS inside the collectors...


my $0.02

if i had the xtra money i would go J-body

that and they are local for us canadians

 

That header is probably by far the most solid, most well built header for the lsj engine out there. You have the money go for it 100%. Am going to check my budget in a few months if i can save up for it am going for it. But dont forget you need the downpipe too about 400$ canadian with a high flow cat.

 

So Denny, are you saying that this header does not exit at the stock location? That will hurt sales if so. I am really impressed with this header; equal length tubes, stainless steel tubing, 3" collector and sweet looking welds. I am running the TOG header and am very happy with its performance, but would have bought this one if it were available at the time. For those who say it is too pricey, I say that experience has taught me that you get what you pay for.

 

i agree

 

Actually it does exit at the stock location. what I meant was having a header that flows so well to just have a stock downpipe is a waste.... all am saying is plan on buying a
2.75" - 3" downpipe to go with it to use the full performance of the header and also a nice exhaust like the one am getting the 3" JBP vortex Stainless Steel with a magnaflow muffler.

"I say that experience has taught me that you get what you pay for" Agree 100%

 

i was hoping it was stock location exit because i think i might snag that and get cti the rest of the way back. im gonna have to wait till i get home though.

 

taken from jbody website:

JP0927 - JBP Vortex T304 Stainless 4-1 Header
Price: [$789 (US$710.10)]
Header Still in Testing... Comes with:

- T304 Stainless Steel Flanges
- T304 02 Bung
- Electropolished Finish
- Header Wrap for single primary
- Computer Tuned primaries 1⅝"
- T304 14 gauge Tube construction
- 3.0" T304 Stainless Formed Collector
- Bolts straight to stock down pipe- Includes all gaskets
- Includes all mounting hardware
- Includes new stainles steel bolts
- Fits Cobalt SS/Redline [2.0L SC, 2.4L VVT]

You can see the craftmanship in our header immediately, however, imagine holding one of these babies in your hands... A header is just as important, if not more important than an intake, especially in a heavily modified engine. With our computer tuned primaries, you don't lose bottom end performance as with other headers. Our JBP Vortex header makes all the other headers pale in comparison to design and intricacy. Its amazing how such a complex piece fits so well in just a small space. We've never been more proud of a product than our JBP Vortex header for the ECOTEC.

Due to the complicated nature of our header and the amount of labour involved in making a piece, allow a two-week window from point of ordering to shipping.

 

I don't get it, if all this R&D goes into the parts why isn't there any performance data?

Flow numbers or HP gains or dyno tests?

Just my opinion / commentary.

I am in the market for a header and I haven't made up my mind yet. The header sure looks nice and fancy.

 

sure does! ive been in contact with JBP. ill copy and paste the emails

 

[I][I am writting to you because i am a cobalt ss owner and i am interested in your Vortex t304 header. These headers are by far the most unique crafted headers ive seen so far and am very much willing to buy them and install after winter but before i do i would like to know if you have any dyno sheets from customers who have bought these headers or confirmed hp/tq gains.

just wanted to make sure these headers peform unique just as they look./I]

The header is not yet available for release for that exact reason. We are performing dyno testing and will release the header after Dec. 1st.

Thanks,
JBP

i guess we'll have to wait till after xmas

 

I had the preproduction model in my ands the other day, there is a completly smooth transition of the primary to the collector, and the collector to the flange. theexit flange is identical to the JBP entrance flange for the Downpipe, but will bolt up to stock downpipe.

the colletors exit diameter is 3", so I would agree with Denny, if you get the header, get a 3" downpipe to feel it's full gains. ( JBP may also provide a reducer to 2.5" but he won't look in to that until he finishes thee current one )

I've seen two different TOG headers so far, ( completly different from eachother), and they both sucked ass in comparison.

but Dyno numbers should justify the cost, we'll just have to wait and see

 

i'd say cobalt addiction's header is best bang for the buck out of those available

 

The biggest issue with parts for our cars is quality and avalibilty.

If they can deliver on these key points they will get sales.

One thing I have learned is that I don't wanna be the first guy to get some uncharted untest (by other members or the manufacture) and have to find out it's not what it's cracked up to be and 6 months later there is something a lot better. I don't believe JPB is one of those companies or outfits, but I don't wanna find out the hard way.

I certainly an thankful they are making parts for us, but I can't stand by while people speculate it's the greatest header ever from a picture and marketing write up when it's not even avalible for purchase yet.

 

yeah i agree, thats the purpose of this thread. in my opinion they are unique and the first of its kind BUT like u said i wouldnt want to pay for it unless it performed as good as it looked. im just gonna wait for this dyno sheets.