Lysholm 1.6 Twinscrew - En route to power!
Bullshit im well over 400whp on a stock motor running 22.5psi and 17 degrees of timing 11.0 a/f. So you call low timing and low boost pushing it lol And that's stock everything no ported head no e85. I'm on pump gas 93 and for a year I was not even using meth. Only reason I went with meth was aliitle extra safety.
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Other stuff on the car
ZZP BRFPS
Aftermarket fuel pump (since the `05's were crap)
GMPP extruded honed exh manifold
Cat-delete downpipe, 2.5"
GMPP cat-back (2.25", smaller than the stock 2.5")
Hurst Shifter
All this "other stuff" really doesn't mean a whole lot in terms of power.
ZZP BRFPS
Aftermarket fuel pump (since the `05's were crap)
GMPP extruded honed exh manifold
Cat-delete downpipe, 2.5"
GMPP cat-back (2.25", smaller than the stock 2.5")
Hurst Shifter
All this "other stuff" really doesn't mean a whole lot in terms of power.
does not add any power. At all. The only thing it does is increase fuel pressure to allow the injectors a little more headroom. (Or decrease pressure to allow big injectors to idle better)
Aftermarket fuel pump
does not add any power. At all. The only thing it does is replace the crappy `05 fuel pump with something a little better flowing.
GMPP extruded honed exhaust manifold.
Hardly worth even calling a "mod," this adds minimal gains, if any, to a Cobalt's exhaust
Cat-delete downpipe, 2.5"
If there is anything that adds power in this list, this would be it
GMPP cat-back
A good sounding exhaust, but is actually smaller than the stock system, and is laughable in terms of power increase.
So, a cat-delete downpipe being the only true power making mod, what's your excuse now? I highly doubt that this 2.5" downpipe going into a smaller-than-stock exhaust is going to yield much power, if any.
Why are you being so narrow minded?
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the parts have nothing to do with if they add power themselves or not, the fact is you have to have them for the blower to accomplish anything decent.
with your line of thinking, injectors, charge pipes, wastegates, bov's and fmic's shouldn't be counted either, because they don't add power
with your line of thinking, injectors, charge pipes, wastegates, bov's and fmic's shouldn't be counted either, because they don't add power
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the parts have nothing to do with if they add power themselves or not, the fact is you have to have them for the blower to accomplish anything decent.
with your line of thinking, injectors, charge pipes, wastegates, bov's and fmic's shouldn't be counted either, because they don't add power
with your line of thinking, injectors, charge pipes, wastegates, bov's and fmic's shouldn't be counted either, because they don't add power
`05 fuel pumps suck, there's no other way around it. If it had been an `06, then a fuel pump upgrade is not needed, as mine is perfectly fine on stock fuel pump.
His exhaust setup is minimal, in fact probably not much better than stock. So, not needed for the numbers he got.
I'm confused as to why you are so quick to attack ANYthing that is against your lines of thinking?
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He has been trying to negate anything positive from a blower based on costs. He's a turbo guy. Which is what I was trying to say at the beginning, turbo vs supercharger is a question for the ages. I don't know what his motive is for trying to disprove the blower. Maybe he could tell us why. Hell, we don't even have numbers for the lysholm as of yet, which is why this thread was made. But that has pobably been forgotten with all the tvs vs turbo talk.
He has been trying to negate anything positive from a blower based on costs. He's a turbo guy. Which is what I was trying to say at the beginning, turbo vs supercharger is a question for the ages. I don't know what his motive is for trying to disprove the blower. Maybe he could tell us why. Hell, we don't even have numbers for the lysholm as of yet, which is why this thread was made. But that has pobably been forgotten with all the tvs vs turbo talk.
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He has been trying to negate anything positive from a blower based on costs. He's a turbo guy. Which is what I was trying to say at the beginning, turbo vs supercharger is a question for the ages. I don't know what his motive is for trying to disprove the blower. Maybe he could tell us why. Hell, we don't even have numbers for the lysholm as of yet, which is why this thread was made. But that has pobably been forgotten with all the tvs vs turbo talk.
Lets all get back on track. Frig this turbo vs. blower ****. It's complete nonsense. No wonder our platform takes so long to progress. When something new comes out it gets bashed even before it gets tested to its full potential.
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The main problem with this whole blower idea is this will create more powersitic loss then the Tvs and can't be spun anywhere near as fast as the Tvs because of crappy cast rotors that will most likely blow apart and ruin your motor. Also now puts even more unnecessary strain on the engine. Your talking about porting the head and e85 and pistons and sleeves. Less money I think not! All of this to make less power then someone that bolted a turbo on. Now say port the head on my car, cams, e85........ Now your going to see that making power is not the problem with this cars.
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The main problem with this whole blower idea is this will create more powersitic loss then the Tvs and can't be spun anywhere near as fast as the Tvs because of crappy cast rotors that will most likely blow apart and ruin your motor. Also now puts even more unnecessary strain on the engine. Your talking about porting the head and e85 and pistons and sleeves. Less money I think not! All of this to make less power then someone that bolted a turbo on. Now say port the head on my car, cams, e85........ Now your going to see that making power is not the problem with this cars.
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With a ported head and e85 its gunna make beast power
heres a k20 with the lysholm1600ax
‪424HP Acura RSX Lysholm Twin Screw MercRacing supercharged‬‏ - YouTube
‪RSX Twin Screw Supercharger Lysholm‬‏ - YouTube
all of you turbo guys jump so quick to bash another blower and its because you all get scared that there might be a better alternative.
heres a k20 with the lysholm1600ax
‪424HP Acura RSX Lysholm Twin Screw MercRacing supercharged‬‏ - YouTube
‪RSX Twin Screw Supercharger Lysholm‬‏ - YouTube
all of you turbo guys jump so quick to bash another blower and its because you all get scared that there might be a better alternative.
The main problem with this whole blower idea is this will create more powersitic loss then the Tvs and can't be spun anywhere near as fast as the Tvs because of crappy cast rotors that will most likely blow apart and ruin your motor. Also now puts even more unnecessary strain on the engine. Your talking about porting the head and e85 and pistons and sleeves. Less money I think not! All of this to make less power then someone that bolted a turbo on. Now say port the head on my car, cams, e85........ Now your going to see that making power is not the problem with this cars.
What I really want to see is what this would do with an LE5 bottom end, high compression (10:1 or higher), Custom billet cams (ie your cams would be the only ones in the world that exist like that, none of those stupid waste of money off the shelf cams), AmmFab ported head LSJ head, e85 + meth (somewhere larger than a 7 gph nozzle), reving to 7 grand, etc etc. Before you say that's crap. I built that engine digitally with software that costs more than this blower, except I used an mp62 with a 2.7" pulley and it theoretically makes about 400 hp and climbing right at the 7K rpm redline I put on it. You could rev it higher but the piston speeds on the LE5 bottom end start to get ridiculous, and you'd start breaking things just from the revs, never mind the power.
