lol, np

 

haha alrighty man

 

I made a meth FAQ thread a while back. Just like my TVS FAQ, never got stickied.....

 

no my afr are around 10.9-11.0, they are 11.2 ish without the meth. you can say its stupid but thats your opinion. im not an idiot, if it didnt work i wouldnt be running it, i do know what im doing.

 

why cant we all just get along

 

Washer fluid will never allow more power than a car with a proper tune and the proper pulley size. The only thing you can hope for is to recover some of the power you lost by running too small a pulley.

This has been extensively tested and proven and explained by ZZP. We have a standing $1000 challenge to prove us wrong. No one has taken us up.

 

For one. we dont care.

IF you use meth, you see power gains.

Doesnt matter if its from power lost running too small of a pulley.. you still got that power back.

SO.... if you want it, get it... Despite what ZZP said.

 

 

lol i cant wait to get meth...with so many different applications for it including sc and tc....why would so many ppl buy it if it didnt help in some way..im buying it to help with cooling cuz ill be running a 2.7... and according to everyone else i will see gains as well...
i like how OTT is all for it and there people use it...and ZZP is against it...OTT FTW

 

You'll hear a lot of "it works" or "i like mine" or "I can feel it" or "you 'see' power gains" but this is not proof of anything. You'll never see a comprehensive dyno showing you the gains because they cannot be had. Water or washer fluid can only decrease power for the purposes here.

Water added to fuel slows the burn rate which has a similar effect of lowering ignition timing. This cannot be overcome by boost except in low RPM situations where lower timing doesn't cause such a loss in HP and parasitic blower losses are lower. So in theory, you could gain some torque but HP will always suffer over less boost and no washer fluid. We plan on doing a graphical chart in a manner that easy for new modders to understand shortly. Stay tuned...
It's popular because methanol and water are verbally used as if they are the same thing. The people making gains are spraying methanol, tricking some people who spray washer fluid into thinking they are doing the same thing.

As far as it being popular? Only in this market because it's new and most people don't dyno their cars w/ and without. 1/2 water 1/2 gas was very popular for a while; the patches on the bottom of your feet to remove impurities were popular; stones for the washing mathine instead of soap, magnets for your fuel lines or for your ankles/wrists; electrolysis kits for under the engine to make hydrogen and oxygen. All of these sold millions of dollars. The argument you're using is ad populum, meaning that if everyone is doing it, it must be right. It's not. Do the reasearch by checking in other forums using supercharged cars. Find out what mixtures they are spraying and you'll quickly learn that washer fluid isn't a good mod. If you find a kit that sprays 90 or 100% alcohol, it will work and work well once you tune it in but don't be confused into thinnking that a high water content mix will perform a similar task.

 

what about anti freeze? it comes as 99.96% methanol if im not mistaken, add some water, make it 90/10 would that be ok?

 

Id use more water for the cooling aspect of it.

 

yea thats what im saying..im using it for more of the cooling aspect...maybe ill see gains becuase the air charge is cooler but thats what i want it for

 

ethanol glycol. It would form the same function of knock supression by slowing the burn rate and the addition would cool the charge but the motor wouldn't like it, the cat would get detroyed, the emissions would be terrible and the HP would still drop.

Do you have a before and after IAT using washer fluiid? Do you have before and after MAP readings? How about MAF?

 

No im saying add more water than justa 90/10 mix...

Once again, no one uses just straight washer fluid... If they are smart they mix in a bottle of heet or two.

 

fact

more timing doesnt mean more power

i personally like 70/30 mix. More water didnt help when tuning.

 

no becuase ther reason i started this thread was to figure out to buy it...and what would the maf matter its way before the charge would be and there are post in this thread with people saying there low iat2s becuase of meth/water injection...if you dont like it or agree with it then why are you posting in here?

 

I prefer nitrous oxide injection. It has a seat of the pants increase for sure. Just ask Boxxy

 

lol not a fan of NOS though ^^

 

I don't think you should put drugs in your car... It's as addictive as nose candy I heard

 

I do... however... I'm not going to divulge them to you, why because I frankly am one of the few members tired of your misinformation!

 

^^^ Thankyou God.

 

1badBlueberrySC FTW!!!!!

 

hey blueberry have you heard of ethanol glycol? I have heard of ethylene glycol, propolene glycol, isopropol alchohol...ethanol glycol? huh? more misinformation....

 

^^^ lol.