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Old Mar 4, 2011 | 03:00 PM
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It works by increasing the amount of oxygen in the system which burns completely with the fuel. If the car is very hot, it will bring a condition where the people in there will be uncomfortable. This therefore means that they will not enjoy their time like they would wish to.

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Old Mar 4, 2011 | 03:08 PM
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It works by increasing the amount of oxygen in the system which burns completely with the fuel. If the car is very hot, it will bring a condition where the people in there will be uncomfortable. This therefore means that they will not enjoy their time like they would wish to.

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My brother owned the airaid cold air intake system,I want a airaid
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Old Mar 4, 2011 | 10:21 PM
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that system won't make anything any colder. i'm running air to air and the stock oem cooler for the turbo setup and i'm removing the stock setup soon, because all it does is reheat the air from the heat soak. air to air alone is much better
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Old Mar 5, 2011 | 04:51 PM
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a PROPERLY set up air/water will always cool better than air/air

note, i said properly, which our stock setup is not
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Old Mar 5, 2011 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tennpenn83
a PROPERLY set up air/water will always cool better than air/air

note, i said properly, which our stock setup is not
yep, there's no way that stock LIM can be part of a "proper" setup unless it was completely gutted, new parts welded in and removing basically every part that was associated with the stock cooling system.

so it's easier to use an air to air, which is 10% of the costs and works better
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Old Mar 6, 2011 | 03:59 PM
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i agree, but i mentioned this because in your last post it could have been misconstrued as air/air is always better
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Old Mar 6, 2011 | 06:41 PM
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i agree, but i mentioned this because in your last post it could have been misconstrued as air/air is always better
it's about a cobalt, on a cobalt forum.. guess i made a bad assumption that people would understand i was referring to a cobalt and not a bugatti veyron.
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Old Mar 6, 2011 | 06:54 PM
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this is full of lulz.... i want to see madusa on the car!
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Old Mar 6, 2011 | 09:11 PM
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Once it is on the car all truths will be revealed, I know air/air alone would work awesome but freakta already did that so I just wanted to try another route. Making the LIM solely an air/air setup would be really easy.
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by selfinfliction
it's about a cobalt, on a cobalt forum.. guess i made a bad assumption that people would understand i was referring to a cobalt and not a bugatti veyron.
you give too much credit to the members of this forum..

not everyone knows what the numbers in your sig means...

and yes i know that is a turbo
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 07:48 AM
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Once it is on the car all truths will be revealed, I know air/air alone would work awesome but freakta already did that so I just wanted to try another route. Making the LIM solely an air/air setup would be really easy.
it would be too small to do any good. if you really want a good setup check out getting an insert for the water to air and gutting the LIM and welding that in. it doesn't matter what you do to the rest of the LIM, if you leave those laminovas in there, it will never be as efficient as it needs to be.

if you go that route, bell intercoolers sells some of the best cores on the market and have any size you need to fit in there.
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by selfinfliction
it would be too small to do any good. if you really want a good setup check out getting an insert for the water to air and gutting the LIM and welding that in. it doesn't matter what you do to the rest of the LIM, if you leave those laminovas in there, it will never be as efficient as it needs to be.

if you go that route, bell intercoolers sells some of the best cores on the market and have any size you need to fit in there.
Someone already did that a few yeas ago. IIRC he was flamed non-stop and when it was done the gains were non existent, then he was flamed some more.
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 11:44 PM
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So I've been kinda lazy this summer. Had some axle issues, procrastinating and such.
So when I finally got around to installing the mani things got real tight real fast. I realized I would need to redesign to make it fit better. All I had to do was shift the front pipe forward some more but I also wanted to make some more room for the air to gather anyways so here is the new design. I also tapped the meth into the inlet pipe. It's nice that it is 100% concealed now from the track inspectors.


Then came the task of running the IC piping. Holy fn nightmare.

That fn AC line was the bane of my existence. After the piping was in I bolted the IC pump back into it's stock location so everything is packed in there like sardines.
Then I bolted up the air/air exchange

That took the better part of three days. Beauty. Happy day. Right. I thought so, until I walked over to my old single pass mani and flipped it over. Ting ting. One set of washers and a O ring fall out. When I pulled the Laminovas out one set stayed in, I was chatting with friends when I was doing it not really paying attention. FML. I hit my limit, wanted to torch the whole fn car at that point. After I cooled down I managed to pull of the endplate with the mani still bolted to the car. Pulled the top laminova out and luckily it was the culprit. Back in business. Hooked up all the water to air lines. So now the coolant flows through the mani into the top of option b tank which I drilled a second 3/4 line into, out of the tank to the pump, pump to Killer chiller, killer chiller to mani.
Fired the car up, no leaks, coolant or air. Under vaccum the one silicon 90* at the IC sucks in slightly but not enough to be an issue.
So tomorrow will be the cars maiden voyage. No heavy pulls though as my tuner is out till Tues so I don't want to try anything crazy as I dropped my meth nozzle down from a 10gph to a 7 on top of everything else.
Stay tuned.
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 11:52 PM
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Making magic, yay
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 11:53 PM
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Very nice..My question is you basically have increased the volume of the intake manifold, will that affect boost?
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 12:03 AM
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It would have too I'd think. Once we get hptuners hooked up should have a better idea of what is going on in there.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Flatgod
Someone already did that a few yeas ago. IIRC he was flamed non-stop and when it was done the gains were non existent, then he was flamed some more.
the guy that did that was flamed for not showing proof that it worked good luck this setup
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 04:05 PM
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Here's a few more pics of the completed setup.
Modified option b

I tapped the option b into the intake side of the Killer Chiller since there is no longer a HE to tap into.

Manifold from the top down.

HE pump and the nest of **** down there.

Front mount IC, dirty ass bumper

I started the car up and let it idle for 25 min while i checked it over again for air and coolant leaks. This is what I saw on my gauge after.

Somewhat promising. After I shut the car off I noticed that there was actually condensation forming on my endplate. It's pretty obvious that the KC unit works much better with having any HE's on the car.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 04:10 PM
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mmm, now go do a pull. the only problem is it would be nice to independtly test your manifold without the KC.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 07BoostedG5
mmm, now go do a pull. the only problem is it would be nice to independtly test your manifold without the KC.
just dont turn on the a/c?
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 04:29 PM
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In for results good work!
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 04:41 PM
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Sub'd. I thought I saw another thread about this. I believe he had an MP90 blower and his boost dropped from 24 to 20PSI or so. He lost power. He also had dyno sheets to prove it. If this works I think they should start to produce these.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 04:52 PM
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Boost remained the same actually

A 50 whp loss was seen and the project was scrapped
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 06:50 PM
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Sub'd. I thought I saw another thread about this. I believe he had an MP90 blower and his boost dropped from 24 to 20PSI or so. He lost power. He also had dyno sheets to prove it. If this works I think they should start to produce these.
I cannot see anyone wanting to reproduce this setup for anybody. I for one wouldn't. Between the porting, fabricating and welding I probably have 30+ hours into the manifold alone. Then installing was a major PITA so even if I did reproduce it it would only be for individual I knew for certain had the skill, tools and patience to do it correctly. Anyone is free to copy the design I just don't think I could set a reasonable price to do it.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 07:04 PM
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So with the killer chiller off, how your iats
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