ok so i made a mistake on the price.. but still the rest of it is custom machined by them .. it's not like it's bought from somewhere they have to make them custom... when will people understand that sometimes you have to pay people for labor

 

yea, but injectors are what, 250 for 60's? so you're saying it costs 1800 to make 2 adapter plates and a snout? i realize they have to make money, but i bet you can get a place to custom make the adapters and snout for 1/3 of that or less.

you can probably make this kit yourself for about 2500.

 

Snouts range from 300-400 depending on length

 

so we're up to 2100 for the kit. how much can an adapter be? i can't imagine it being that much.

 

Think you could run a 2.5" pulley with stock internals and one of these? hmn...

 

Dual pass endplate you're forgetting. Stock one won't work.

Try it and you'll have a blower that isn't worth anything anymore.

 

so i'm assuming this blower cannot handle that much boost? also how much do you think it is putting out with the 2.8" pulley and how much smaller could you safely go? thanks in advance.

 

No, it can handle boost, only to a safe spinning RPM. Once you surpass that RPM, the rotors of the blower are in severe danger of smacking each-other and going boom.

 

Then lower max rpm. Instead of 7000 bring it down to 6500

 

wow 3500 before tune and injectors ..so why not say it for what its worth 4k

 

Are you guys that buy theses turbo kits and **** for 5k are your cars paided off?

 

yeah, I am dieing here trying to pay for ******* college, and my car and car insurance...etc....credit card debt.... etc.....I only make 8.67 an hour and work myself to death dude.....engineering is ******* hard but so worth it!!!!

 

custom fabbing, r&d and low demand. This isn't that expensive guys...

 

Im just asking cause i see alot of post talking about thats a good price and i bet there **** aint even paid off

 

I really don't care what it costs....in the end....I will somehow end up buying it lol :0

 

its not that its expensive, its just that its expensive for what you get. Lets say they make 300WHP, thats not impressive for 3500 dollars, thats a huge waste of money. Considering what a 2.6 and tune can put 280WHP? and you can get that done for less than 500 bucks if you have friends. So your paying 3,000 dollars for 20 HP?

 

LIke i said before if it lays down 330-340whp on a dynojet it's worth the money. If it will only put down 300 then there are far better ways to spend money.

Ported head - 1000
N20 Kit - 500

 

that I agree with.

but i would want to see a car survive at that whp for at least 6 months on stock internals before id be interested.

 

If I remember correctly there was no real number, just based on guesses from the needle on the gauge that 2K5 has it was around 22 to 24 pounds. Needle was pegged at the autometer logo. Vids on youtube.

 

umm 06black and other turbo swaps are pushing more then that.. yes i know there is the heat issue but that is part of the point of the swap lower temps then the m62 so 330 should be doable

 

yea, i think the cost would seem alot less..if rebel would wait to post this stuff up untill they had the actual numbers instead of what they think....in no way am i knockin rebel,i cant wait to get rid of this heaton...but a better presentation

 

see this is where you are missing a few things. The eaton is INSANELY innefficient compared to a decent twin screw. I'll have to take a look at the charts for this specific blower, but if the designers had any clue what they were doing this thing will probably make the same temps pushing 16 psi that the eaton does at stock boost levels. This means more aggressive tunes with less knock, higher possible peak boost levels, etc. You are gonna see probably 25+whp at the SAME BOOST LEVELS you are running on the eaton. like i said, you guys aren't breaking those pistons due to pure power...it's tune issues because of excess heat...you aren't gonna have that with this setup. I would put money on the line that pushing the same boost levels a 2.6" pullied eaton does, this setup will put down a solid 315-320whp, its gonna be less stressful on the pistons, and throw some meth in the mix and i will assure you 340whp is easily doable maybe upping the boost too. I think you guys are underestimating this.

 

Ding ding ding. Stock pistons + knock = death.

 

Ok, I've already posted this twice in this thread. I still have the stock boost gauge in the car and it was down in the Autometer/Boost area which = 24-25psi. This was on a 2.8" pulley as well.

With that said, my heaton with a 2.6" pulley and methanol have never even began to touch that period. I can hit 20psi @ 7000rpms with my 2.6" pulley and meth in Charleston, SC which is at sealevel or below in some places.

My rough tuned twinscrew with slipping belt made 34whp more than my 2.6" pulley fully tuned without methanol. The timing table still needed a lot of work. This was all done on the same Mustang dyno I go to at 90*+ temps and high humidity.

The price of the blower itself it $1500. Add shipping from Sweden where Lysholm is located, figure $300-400 for the snout, $100 for the pulley and hub, $250 for the dual pass plate, $50-100 for the adapter plate w/ o-ring, $200-300 for the blower intake, $50 for the bypass valve, and another $25-30 for hardware/clamps/reinforced tubing. All that just in cost $2475-2730 without shipping of the blower. They don't have their own machinist and machine shop, so the parts have to be made by a local shop. I will confirm that the dual pass is more than just a plate with a tube welded to it. There is a lot of machining that went into all the parts for that matter as I took two years of Machining Technology, and I know what it takes to use CAD/CNC, a milling machine, and a lathe. A lot of man hours go into this sort of stuff gentlemen. The guy has to make some damn profit here so he can pay his bills and college off that he just finished while still be able to eat gentlemen.

 

with the 2.8 do you have to run meth with the twin screw?