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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 11:30 PM
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No need to run methanol injection with the 2.8" pulley. I found you can run up to 21* of timing without it too because of the lower IAT2's.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 12:08 AM
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wow!!!!! how much have you been able to do with it? or is that when it messed up?
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 12:38 AM
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when this is up and running, IMO it will make over 300whp..

the car made 281/263 at 5700 rpms on a very rough tune
using the same dyno, a car with a GM stage 2, GMPP exhaust manifold and catback, 3" intake and 3.5" throttle body made 219/200

on some dynos (ala dynojets) people put down those numbers stock...

the 281/263 run would have been over 300 to the wheels using a dyno where it gives 220/200 numbers to stock cars... and the TS car wasnt running anywhere near its full potential

in my mind this car will make great power... how much over 300whp depends on the dyno used and if you have other mods like full exhaust, meth, build head, etc...

if you follow my retarted thinking you will understand what i mean hahahahahha
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by burntorange
wow!!!!! how much have you been able to do with it? or is that when it messed up?
Right after that is when the snout blew, so I had to send the kit back. I just got a loaner stock blower a week or so before I left for the desert, so the car is back running again on a 2.6" pulley and the methanol spraying correctly this time. Put it this way, the car with the 2.6" pulley and meth managed to keep up with my buddies 297awhp 02 WRX. His turbo just has a bit more huff up top, but I have the extra grunt downlow. Damn good races we had. If I had the TS, I bet I could have pulled him for sure!
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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that I agree with.

but i would want to see a car survive at that whp for at least 6 months on stock internals before id be interested.
i drove my car for over a year @290+whp with no problems except for the axles, now at @370+whp ( alot of tuning since last dyno pulls at 356 and more timing lol) for the last 3 months or so with no ill effects... only problem I have is an exhaust leak, and I think I killed the turbo. But I am also only running 22.35 psi since that is all my boost controller will give me (running it to the compressor housing on the turbo for boost signal) but I'm sure she'll hold at least 24psi on pump gas, also I only run pump gas and the meth injection hasn't been hooked up on my car since the turbo went in. I'm sure with that, and 23 degrees of timing and 24 psi I should be @400whp.
sorry, end thread jack.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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No problem Paul. I think that it does need to be stated that the stock internals of these cars are pretty stout. My first engine died with just an intake because something let go in the valvetrain. Definitely not my fault as I was on my way to work at 30mph in like 4th gear when it happened. My only issue I had with the second engine was that my headgasket blew back in the day with GMPP Stage 2. I corrected that issue with Golden Eagle headstuds, 2.2L .040 Cometic headgasket, and resurfacing the head. Yes it lowered my compression a bit since the stock gasket is .027, but she runs good. Overall I just think I get delt some **** luck when it comes to cars.

With that being said, I've run strong on stage 2, then stage 2 with a 2.8" pulley, then a custom tune w/ 60's and a 2.8" pulley, then onto a 2.6" pulley, then adding methanol to the mix, and finally pounding 24-25psi with the twinscrew. I am a firm believer it's all in the tune, and staying away from the 2.5" pulley is key.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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your car was built on a friday afternoon I guess lol.
Yeah man, I've seen some shitty luck with these cars, I guess I've been lucky, since I've abused the hell out of my car and have run pretty much everything under the sun minus nitrous on it.
On;y problem I have now is my damn thermostat is stuck open. Need to see what I can rig up to get it working today until the one I ordered comes in.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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its not that its expensive, its just that its expensive for what you get. Lets say they make 300WHP, thats not impressive for 3500 dollars, thats a huge waste of money. Considering what a 2.6 and tune can put 280WHP? and you can get that done for less than 500 bucks if you have friends. So your paying 3,000 dollars for 20 HP?
Alright! I see the car is back in action. Congrats Mase! I bet it's real nice to be up and running again.

Just for your information everyone, the car just got up and runnning. Mase just got done putting in a new engine since he blew the last one with another project. So let him at least break in the new engine and clutch in before expecting him to rock out some dyno numbers and videos. Please have some patience as he has been without his car for quite some time now.

The dyno I go to I only put down 197whp with just my Injen intake. With all my mods to include the 2.2L Cometic headgasket that lowered my compression a bit minus meth and the stock blower with a 2.6" pulley fully tuned I laid down 238whp on the same dyno. With the twinscrew and all my other mods and just starting the tuning I was at 272whp. There was still a lot more to be had and I didn't even start spraying methanol yet. The reason tuning had to stop was because of the belt slipping due to the snout leaking oil and a vacuum leak due to my methanol checkvalve breaking allowing 1.5 quarts of methanol to dump into the engine during one dyno pull. Luckily the engine **** it all out quickly and I didn't blow the engine.

Hopefully now, Mase can get you guys the "NUMBERS" you want on the dyno he goes to. I know it makes the power, I just want my toy back!

The pulley that was on the blower I tested was a 2.8" pulley and it belted out 24-25psi
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
i drove my car for over a year @290+whp with no problems except for the axles, now at @370+whp ( alot of tuning since last dyno pulls at 356 and more timing lol) for the last 3 months or so with no ill effects... only problem I have is an exhaust leak, and I think I killed the turbo. But I am also only running 22.35 psi since that is all my boost controller will give me (running it to the compressor housing on the turbo for boost signal) but I'm sure she'll hold at least 24psi on pump gas, also I only run pump gas and the meth injection hasn't been hooked up on my car since the turbo went in. I'm sure with that, and 23 degrees of timing and 24 psi I should be @400whp.
sorry, end thread jack.
you misunderstood me.

Im not doubting that the internals can handle it. (with the right F/I)

but you and I both know, that 320whp with an m62 is VERY different to 320whp from a turbo.
its not the HP number thats popping engines.

so in that same light.....this form of F/I needs to prove its efficiency in making power SAFELY.
so far it looks very promising.

im just saying that for me personally, i would want it proven to me before id drop the cashola on it.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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Other Twin Screw kits

http://www.superchargersonline.com/p...10-1607-B11313
$5,129.00

http://www.kennebell.net/pricelist/SC-PRICELIST.pdf
$3000-7000

and so on

So what now? well how about you guys show the support and we drop the price to $3000
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 10:14 PM
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man, I wish I had a credit card or something....I'd be on it as soon as some dyno #'s come out
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Eng@RebelAutoWorxs
Other Twin Screw kits

http://www.superchargersonline.com/p...10-1607-B11313
$5,129.00

http://www.kennebell.net/pricelist/SC-PRICELIST.pdf
$3000-7000

and so on

So what now? well how about you guys show the support and we drop the price to $3000
i want!!!!, hopefully i can get my car paid off quick, so the summer i work full time and get this
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Eng@RebelAutoWorxs
Other Twin Screw kits

http://www.superchargersonline.com/p...10-1607-B11313
$5,129.00

http://www.kennebell.net/pricelist/SC-PRICELIST.pdf
$3000-7000

and so on

So what now? well how about you guys show the support and we drop the price to $3000

Funny how you quoted a full kit and not an upgrade kit. The Whipple upgrade kit for the 03 Cobra is 3300 dollars and comes with a 2.3L supercharger.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 01:00 PM
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Nice to see the kit is coming along just nicely. I have a feeling it will put down more than what people are expecting. Once tuning is done i think everyone will be have. As far as that goes, Rebel would it be possible in the future for you guys to make forged rotors? Just out of curisity thats why I'm asking
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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I'm still watching the clock...
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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if I wouldn't have sold my cobalt I would have already ordered this kit.....you guys are being really cheap. Material costs and machine time as well as the R&D that goes into stuff like this isn't cheap. Huge thumbs up to rebel for supporting the cobalt community. Even though I no longer have mine its cool to see whats still going on here.....oh if your complaining about 3k....look at trailblazer ss supercharger kits and you'll be happy that an upgrade kit is mere 3k
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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Tell me about it i want one for my tbss but wooooo $$$$$
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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"So what now? well how about you guys show the support and we drop the price to $3000"

Is this kit ready to ship? Is this a group buy offer? Can you list what is in the kit?

I am ready to do this on my car IF the bugs have been worked out of the blower.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ArielAtom300
"So what now? well how about you guys show the support and we drop the price to $3000"

Is this kit ready to ship? Is this a group buy offer? Can you list what is in the kit?

I am ready to do this on my car IF the bugs have been worked out of the blower.
I'm also waiting on the results for this kit. I'm not sure if it will fit in the Atom. The stock S/C is real close to the chassis right under the intake. Can any of you guys at rebel confirm if this T/S setup is higher than the stock SC? You can see what I'm talking about on the post #50 at this link. http://forum.atomclub.com/index.php/topic,6304.45.html
I think $3000 is a fair price on this kit R&D can be real expensive sometimes guys.

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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 12:46 PM
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i know a guy who has an 06 mustang gt with a Eight thousand dollar kenne bell custom kit on it .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .......... 588 rwhp
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Onyxd04Redline
Funny how you quoted a full kit and not an upgrade kit. The Whipple upgrade kit for the 03 Cobra is 3300 dollars and comes with a 2.3L supercharger.
i'm also sure it's a company making huge amounts of these kits unlike rebel who's doing not one off's but small numbers of them
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ArielAtom300
"So what now? well how about you guys show the support and we drop the price to $3000"

Is this kit ready to ship? Is this a group buy offer? Can you list what is in the kit?

I am ready to do this on my car IF the bugs have been worked out of the blower.
let us finish our testing and we will run a GB for it.

I have 4 kits ready to ship with SC in stock.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 07:01 AM
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Kempo,Rebelworxs had Mavs car for a day (or two) and they said this TS will def fit without frame mods on our cars.(Atom2)
I am anxious to do this as the twin screw is a MUCH more overall efficient blower than the roots Eaton. I am not looking for sky high HP numbers,just consistent power no matter what the temps on track.I believe this unit will deliver the goods,once the boys up north sort it out for us.

$3k is not a lot to pay for a well tested product that delivers solid,dependable HP.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 08:11 AM
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Thanks for the info ArielAtom300. If this kit delivers 300-320WHP and is reliable I will definitely order one.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 04:19 PM
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Thanks for the info ArielAtom300. If this kit delivers 300-320WHP and is reliable I will definitely order one.
x2 getting tired of my 2.6 setup
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