That's true of ANY car vs. ANY car.

Heck, I saw a SNOWMOBILE racing at the drag strip that would literally embarass an Evo, an SVT Mustang, or a Z06 Vette (and just about any other car for that matter).

So what?

That's why I'm talking about a stock SS/SC vs. a stock Evo/Sti. And it breaks down like this:

• From a stop - we lose.
• From a roll - it's a driver's race.

Those are the facts, and they CAN NOT be disputed. So don't even try to ...

Simplistic statement from a simplistic thinker.

You couldn't be more wrong. People often buy something (car, house, whatever ..) at a lower price and then improve upon it later on, little by little over time.

THINK xonic, THINK.

What an incredibly articulate statement dumbian.

Not to mention a false one too. Tell me something, you must be 15 years old. Right?

And there you go boys and girls, a REAL person who was in a REAL race.

No hyperbole, no mouthing off - just the facts.

Read 'em and weep Import fanatics ...

 

STI/EVO's regularly trap over 100~103mph. That's not a drivers race when most of you guys struggle to trap 99 stock.

I have to be simple when dealing with simpletons.

You can improve all you want but you'll never make a wooden shack nicer than a mansion unless you tear it down and start over. Same concept here, you can improve the SS/SC all you want but the fact is mod for mod the EVO/STI will be faster.


He's correct if your talking stock vs stock with equal drivers.



Exactly what everyone is saying. The stock evo was pulling on the stock SS S/C.

Read it and weep fanboy. You don't want to admit the EVO/STi is a superior performance vehicle.

 

14.87@95.6mph

^^^ cars that trap mid 90's can not roll with cars that trap over 100 from a roll. so even if you are right and some really really good drivers might be able to hang with evo's/sti's (which is not right btw, i am just saying, hypothetically if it were true...) you would not be one of those people.

 

I've owned an 04 STi and an 04 EVO and my SS/SC doesn't even compare at all, except that it was alot cheaper and gets better mileage.

 

no, bout $750 or a little less if you install it your self and depending on where you get the reflash

 

I wouldn't take the GM catback into consideration in that equation, thats like 3-5hp. But the GM Stg2 can be bought and installed for $700 around here and puts you at about 250-260whp.

 

The only thing I say about power differnence is as long as the m62 is connected to the engine this car isn't really gonna ever get up like an evo or sti. Don't get me wrong yeah I beat a couple from a roll here but, for over all performance mitsubishi and suburu put a better package together. Obviously thats why its a more expensive car. I'm sure we would have a better chance with a turbo or twinscrew platform but we don't have one so thats just the way it is until then

 

I respect your post but this thread wasn't about overall performance, it was purely hp/weight ratio, I didn't care about anything else lol.

 

Fascinating. This thread is full of startling revelations for me, as I was one of the poor suckers who used to own the phenomenom that is the Cobalt SS S/C, and then later traded it for a far inferior, and much slower more expensive import. Silly me, I had the Godly Stage 2 Cobalt in my grasp and let it slip away for this monstrosity. Wait a second, I seem to recall another ratio when I traded it....I think I'll call it the number of times to the dealership to number of trouble free driving days ratio. It was a pretty bad ratio for a brand new car, the worst one I've had yet. I also seem to remember the STi being faster than the Cobalt at the time of trade, but you know what, my memory isn't what it used to be. You guys are absolutely right it's a much faster car than either of the two high $ imports in questions, thanks for reminding me. In any event quality played no roll in my trade either, as cheap pleather seats, crappy dash's that rattle and interior peaces that rattle and door trim panels that paint rubs off, leaking sun roofs, weak clutches, and jello motor mounts are all things that a high quality domestic car will always have and a low quality import will not. It's a good thing I still visit this forum to see that I spent $30k for a slow, poorly manufactured car that will have it's ass handed to it by a $20k ruggedly constructed car with a way better drivetrain and about a billion times more potential. I must have been high on crack when I traded my Stage 2 Cobalt for a lowely STi. Thanks guys, I think I'm going to call a Chevy dealer and see if I can't fix perhaps the biggest mistake of my life.





































Get ******* real, people don't trade Cobalts in for STi's and Evo's because Cobalts are the superior car.

 

Bias is fun.


How about this, there has to be CSS members all over the place. Find a CSS member near Jacksonville NC with the bolt ons and what not that everyone is raving about and I will be happy to race them.

I have an Evo IX MR with a few mods and a bone stock one sitting out front right now.

I'll go from any roll you choose.

So, this is the chance for the CSS members to prove their points. Pull some strings and find a car near me and we can do this. And yes, it will be recorded on video.

 

Hahaha, taking matters into your own hands, good to see.

 

God I wish I could take up that offer.

 

I hope a lot has changed since your 14.8@90.

 

Why, so the Evo could embarass that 2.4 in every category?

 

did anyone read his kills in his sig there great

 

nice so ill murder a stock evo!!!

 

all cars are not created equal

 

2.4 powaaaa. I guess flying by crusing cars counts as wins nowadays.

 

it does thats how i get all of mine

 

if i had the money, i'd take an STI or evo anyday on my ss/sc.

 

13.6@108mph wit just s2..so i think thats enough power to take a stock evo at the track

 

It's not the quarter mile times that matter here, which is where everyone is getting lost. Look at your trap mph. 108 in the quarter is good for a high 12 for sure. I know of a TBSS that hit 12.9 at 109, and that still has room to grow. Nice times though man

 

tx,but i thought ppl here were arrugin that a 15g car with 600 bux invested in it cant beat a car that costs 20+g's..i mean dont get me wrong..evo is a killer car off the line and everything...handling,braking,looks,it has it all over the balt..but what the balt needs is stronger internals and if it came with a turbo instead of a supercharger,u got ur self a modded evo killer..

 

Actually, Mitsu spent all their time on everything but creature comforts like the ugly radio and gauges. Bang for your buck, I have no complaints about my Cobalt. The Cobeys still have ALOT of potential, especially in the quarter mile. It's just so damn tough to get a good 60' with em, which is yet another reason to keep an eye on the trap speeds instead.

I will agree that GM could have gone turbo and done a couple other higher quality adjustments, but IMO, we still have a damn decent car

 

My brother ran a 13.2 @ 104 in his bone stock Evo without much practice. So, no, a 13.6 won't beat that at the track. His average is 13.3 (one in the vid he traps 105 in a 13.3 run) so you still won't beat that. Here's a vid showing a couple of his runs.


A couple of races by my brother in his stock IX MR. Still learning on the launch.Song- Ill Nino= What You Deserve