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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:20 PM
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For everyone contacting KB, whipple, etc...they won't sell just units or try making kits. You either have to bite the bullet and buy a kit for a car you don't have and make it a kit for your LSJ or find one on eBay or somewhere, which will most likely be a kit anyways.

Originally Posted by Serpico
yea ive been in contact with autorotor/sprintex about getting a unit over here for some comparison testing more info can be found here http://sprintex.com.au/Opcon_Autorotor.asp
Just to let you know, sprintex is made by autorotor. Autorotor owns the patent for the lysholm twinscrew. Opcon is a division of autorotor and a sister company of laminova, which makes the cores for our water to air intercooler systems. KB is made by autorotor and so is whipple.

For a very informational thread about twinscrews, just go to:

http://www.redlineforums .com/forums/performance-modifications/16826-bbm-twin-screw.html?highlight=sprintex
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by vandy0419
ha ha ha, obviously you're just an ass because you didn't even read the first line, either that or you're too dumb to know that a KB is a freaking twinscrew!!

Here is what I said:



What's funny is you tried writing that like you were taking credit for it yet you just pulled it off that site.

i was actually writing it in hopes that someone would call bs and make themselves look like a fool you just took the bait =) thats why i said i just pulled this out of my ass its called sarcasm
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:32 PM
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hey asshats quit arguing about that garbage and lets get something going here with the topic STAY ON TASK , lol ok now do you think a t3 turbo would be good for us bc i know where to get them cheap or is that too small of a turbo
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SLOWBALT06
hey asshats quit arguing about that garbage and lets get something going here with the topic STAY ON TASK , lol ok now do you think a t3 turbo would be good for us bc i know where to get them cheap or is that too small of a turbo
t3/t4 would probably be best because the hotside is the t3 so it will spool up faster and the cold side has the capability of a t4 power...

Also, I have been on topic, everyone wants to freaking question everything.
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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i have a m90 on the way and as soon as sprintex gives me a call back ill have one of there chargers on the way too then we will see how much hp difference is between the 2 something tells me its going to be real close i bet within 15 hp of each other

question is the $ to $ ratio going to be worth it something tells me that its going to be a big fat NO 275 hp from a m90 for 700 bucks or 290 hp from a twin screw for 2000 ...hmm time will tell

btw i think im really going to end up ******* myself financially with this testing if it turns out the way i think it will....who is going to buy a twin screw if it does turn out like i predict maybe i could find someone who is a hardcore lysholm fan who would be willing to part with 2000 bucks for 10 hp .....the first person ill ask would be vandy though hahaha =P
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by patathSS
Did you mess with the calculator they have on their site? IT is a really good macro for calculating proper size based off displacement and etc. It looks like if we ran a 1.33L at 22-23 psi you could make 370+ hp plus still be at the 13k rev limit of the blower.
It would also take a 3.57" pulley. Good luck getting that to fit on top with the adapter plate and hopefully you can find or have a belt longe enough to fit.

Actually if you tell it to use the M62 at 12.5 psi it says it would require a 3.63" pulley and would produce 238 hp with the 6500 max rpm and 256 with 7K.
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Serpico
i was actually writing it in hopes that someone would call bs and make themselves look like a fool you just took the bait =) thats why i said i just pulled this out of my ass its called sarcasm
are you kidding me, do you know how to write in proper english because when you write something you need to include a subject. You didn't state a subject and thus we would have to refer back to the previous posts which is about the M90. So your post was to be about a M90 in which ALL your information was way off.

Are you sure you're even old enough to drive?! I didn't fall for anything, you pulled **** off a site and tried coming up and making it look like you were smart or something in which you never mentioned you were talking about twinscrews.

Also, it shows you don't even know how all the companies are interlinked by posting that sprintex link...
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by vandy0419
Just to let you know, sprintex is made by autorotor. Autorotor owns the patent for the lysholm twinscrew. Opcon is a division of autorotor and a sister company of laminova, which makes the cores for our water to air intercooler systems. KB is made by autorotor and so is whipple.

For a very informational thread about twinscrews, just go to:

http://www.redlineforums .com/forums/performance-modifications/16826-bbm-twin-screw.html?highlight=sprintex
Whipple now makes their s/c's in house. They stoped importing the Lysholm in 2004.
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Serpico
i have a m90 on the way and as soon as sprintex gives me a call back ill have one of there chargers on the way too then we will see how much hp difference is between the 2 something tells me its going to be real close i bet within 15 hp of each other

question is the $ to $ ratio going to be worth it something tells me that its going to be a big fat NO 275 hp from a m90 for 700 bucks or 290 hp from a twin screw for 2000 ...hmm time will tell
OMG, you paid $700 for a M90, do you even know how to shop around, lol

I can get a M90 Gen V for $200!!! oh god, you got raped sooo bad! Also, no twinscrew will give you 290 unless you're not tuning it right or it is smaller than 1L, obviously you don't read anything! There is a 1.3L KB Cobalt with stock internals, exhaust etc making 350/340 with 60s and tuning...you might overlook this anyways since it is you but oh well...keep pissing money away, lol
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Supercharged
Whipple now makes their s/c's in house. They stoped importing the Lysholm in 2004.
Where did you hear that? EATON is now even tied with Opcon...so EATON is working on their own twinscrews...
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by vandy0419
OMG, you paid $700 for a M90, do you even know how to shop around, lol

I can get a M90 Gen V for $200!!! oh god, you got raped sooo bad! Also, no twinscrew will give you 290 unless you're not tuning it right or it is smaller than 1L, obviously you don't read anything! There is a 1.3L KB Cobalt with stock internals, exhaust etc in Miami making 350/340 with 60s and tuning...you might overlook this anyways since it is you but oh well...keep pissing money away, lol
Its brand new dude ....im not going to put a ebay charger on my car
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Serpico
Its brand new dude ....im not going to put a ebay charger on my car
The ones I was getting were less than 1k miles on them. I'd return it if I were you and just let me know and I'd get it to ya, it's a lot of money to throw around for testing.
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by vandy0419
Where did you hear that? EATON is now even tied with Opcon...so EATON is working on their own twinscrews...

READ MENG http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/....asp?PageID=80

and it was lysholm technologies not opcon that is now under the eaton umbrella a correction to earlier info
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by vandy0419
Where did you hear that? EATON is now even tied with Opcon...so EATON is working on their own twinscrews...
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Whipple Superchargers (2005 and up)
Due to the lack of delivery and sever back order level, Whipple Superchargers began development of their own line of superchargers. With their extensive knowledge and years of experience, Whipple developed an entirely new supercharger lineup that featured all of the latest technology in rotor profile, housing, rotor coating and bearing design. The results were astounding, not only did production begin in the USA, Whipple also increased compressor efficiency, lowered overall noise level, increased reliability, engineered the ability to update and repair (some are non-repairable) and increased it’s durability for a wider variety of applications.
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by vandy0419
The ones I was getting were less than 1k miles on them. I'd return it if I were you and just let me know and I'd get it to ya, it's a lot of money to throw around for testing.

well i did that once before im prolly going to end up keeping it on the car but that is certainly good info in case this m90 does work out ..im sure you could prolly make some decent $$$ supplying folks with good m90`s
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:56 PM
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i can get a t3/t4 turbo brand new for 375.00 should i bite or is this a waste of money
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SLOWBALT06
i can get a t3/t4 turbo brand new for 375.00 should i bite or is this a waste of money
if u can find a manifold that it will bolt to
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Serpico
i have a m90 on the way and as soon as sprintex gives me a call back ill have one of there chargers on the way too then we will see how much hp difference is between the 2 something tells me its going to be real close i bet within 15 hp of each other

question is the $ to $ ratio going to be worth it something tells me that its going to be a big fat NO 275 hp from a m90 for 700 bucks or 290 hp from a twin screw for 2000 ...hmm time will tell

btw i think im really going to end up ******* myself financially with this testing if it turns out the way i think it will....who is going to buy a twin screw if it does turn out like i predict maybe i could find someone who is a hardcore lysholm fan who would be willing to part with 2000 bucks for 10 hp .....the first person ill ask would be vandy though hahaha =P
when are you going to put on the m90 and your doing this with the ss/sc right just making sure
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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if u can find a manifold that it will bolt to
someone stated we could use the manifold for the saab true or not
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SLOWBALT06
i can get a t3/t4 turbo brand new for 375.00 should i bite or is this a waste of money
Don't forget that you have to also purchase/make a turbo manifold, piping, wastgate, BOV, and possibly a new IC.
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 11:03 PM
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when are you going to put on the m90 and your doing this with the ss/sc right just making sure
yes this will be the sssc as i have a dayjob that keeps me very busy it going to be some time, also while i have the motor out im going to be taking care of a few other things to help keep the motor reliable during this testing phase...patience danielsan
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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ok saab manifold if it works 200.00 at most piping 150 wastegate have no idea but cant be more than the turbo bov 250 at most and new ic is gonna be the bitch , new clutch and new axles thats about $3,000 im down
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 12:12 AM
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couldnt we just use the factory ic
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 12:17 AM
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here is a typical setup for probably the lsj

Turbo
manifold
downpipe
dump pipe
wastgate
bov
piping of some kind i dont think we will have to use an aftermarket intercooler if we are running low boost however adding an additional intercooler such as air to air might help us over all on the heat.
Bigger injectors more then likely
and thats all i can think of.

now if i was doing this and doing a turbo setup i would just do
all the above and upgrade the fuel system
intercooler sprayer
new axels
clutch

Now one thing everyone is going to have to understand with the lsj engine is mor ethen likely we are going to have to vent the air from the bov back into the intake system i dont know how hahn or badgrl1 did it i know you can get it to vent just got to tune it right.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SLOWBALT06
ok saab manifold if it works 200.00 at most piping 150 wastegate have no idea but cant be more than the turbo bov 250 at most and new ic is gonna be the bitch , new clutch and new axles thats about $3,000 im down
I think you're thinking too much in the mindset of money and not in the mindset of reaching a goal. When you think of money so much, you're not going to do a proper setup. Buying a saab manifold cause it's cheap isn't necessarily what you want.

If you're trying to do a saab 9-3 setup w/the manifold and turbocharger, remember that it's a small TD04 Mitsubishi turbocharger. Very responsive but will it give you the power you're looking for?

Also mind you the flange on the saab manifold is triangular, if you didn't use the TD04 charger, you'd have to find a turbocharger with that same flange type in order to fit it. Remember too that you can't use an external wastegate cause it doesn't have an extension off the manifold to utilize an external wastegate.

There is much more I think you need to learn about setting up a custom turbo setup just from some of your responses. I have write ups to help you if you want to read them to give you a much better idea of what is going on and what you need as a full out system. It's much more than a BOV, turbo, manifold and some piping. There is alot of thought that needs to go in picking certain parts, deciding on what you need to achieve a certain amount of power, what you need to mainain your system and the list goes on.

So I will say this again, if you are worried about money and finding the cheapest parts, I highly suggest not doing this. If you feel that you can't handle the maintenance of a turbo setup whether it's possible fixing a boost leak or fixing a blown oil seal, I suggest not doing this. If you honestly do not understand how all all the parts you are buying works (which is not a bad thing, you can always learn), I highly suggest either not doing this or putting this plan on hold till you are mentally ready.
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