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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
im really trying not to be a dick here about this. i obviously don't need help in tuning my personal vehicle. especially when my fuel maps end up on a twincharge car.

when you run a larger "maf" housing, you run into resolution problems in the lower hz range. double edged sword.

my build is just fine, and moving right along with proven knowledge. i do appreciate the concern
Don't worry about being politically correct with me, I have thick skin.

I posted because you made a comment about running off the end of the MAF chart. The solution is changing the frequency mechanically or electronically and you posted you had the problem so that indicates to me, you need help.

Furthermore you couldn't get the twin charged kit working properly so you don't understand all of that either. That's why I offered you free dyno time with your car and his and a tutorial on what we do and why we do it. I realize you have a large ego, much of it earned. You've done a lot of research on these cars and are used to knowing more than most. However, you're still running mid 13's and having trouble tuning our twin charged setup. I'm here to learn and I would hope you are as well. When we're running times over a second faster than your car you're probably going to want to know how we're doing it. I'm offering up our expertise at no charge.
Originally Posted by djt81185
[url]and having a spare fuel canister unit in my possession I can tell you that witt is right that the change in filtration is 0.
So I commented that one style may offer better filtering and you guys are saying that the filtering will be the same. Ok, fine. Not sure what there is to argue about.
Originally Posted by qwikredline
I have an OTTP fuel system, great value, works just fine, so I really dont need to worry. I dont know anything about that.
Unfortunatley ZZP doesn't like to sell parts that a customer we feel they don't need and don't understand. My apologies in advance for wanting customers to understand what they are doing to their cars.
Originally Posted by Maven
The article goes one to say that 2 of the 3 styles of return fuel systems actually offer very poor filtering

So we see that according to your source theres actually a 75% chance that a return style system will offer superior filtering regardless of flow rates. Interesting.
Actually 2 of 3 would be 67, not 75% but I get your point. This 75% (67) is only accurate if we don't know the type of system the Cobalt has. Since we do, we don't have to guess. As Witt pointed out, all the fuel is filtered in both systems and filtering would be virtually identical.
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Zooomer

Actually 2 of 3 would be 67, not 75% but I get your point. This 75% (67) is only accurate if we don't know the type of system the Cobalt has. Since we do, we don't have to guess. As Witt pointed out, all the fuel is filtered in both systems and filtering would be virtually identical.
Oops....you got me, I was using the fact that the return style was one of four system designs discussed. You can make numbers say whatever you want.


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Originally Posted by Zooomer
There won't be a point at which we'll copy someone's part because we don't opperate like that.
So what came first the Pacestter header or yours? Do you make the Pacesetter header? Or is the fact that your downpipe interface is a flange and theres isnt enough of a differentiation to avoid confusion about "copying" product?
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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yeah! right on guys! keep the info coming. i like learning and hearing arguments
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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zoomer. i have no desire to work on a twin charge car. nor do i have a desire to tune one. the fuel map on the car in ohio that was sent to you for said kit was sent in with my fuel map that got, more or less falsely claimed by a member on rlf. you ended up with it. which is why i said that. that is between you and other parties. the person you are thinking is me is wickedss. two different people, in two different parts of the country


i am not running off the maf scaling. the highest maf hz i hit is 106xx

as far as my et's and trap speed. only a select few know what my car runs. stock clutch, axles and oe tires. i didn't buy the car to be a drag car. it's a fun daily driver. nothing more.

::shrugs::
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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Wow these vendor fights are just embarrassing! Please take up issues with each other in private and not out in the open forums. It makes you look real bad in front of your customers.
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