ZZP Did What?
04-04-2011, 02:44 PM
#201
Loving all the people who think that making 900whp will be a bolt in job now.
That out of the way, couple questions....
Who makes the rods for ZZP? Not sure if you missed my question, also I'd assume these are made by the same company that makes the 2.4 rods for you guys?
What clutch is in this car?
Any plans to fix the headgasket issue and run it at the track at the current HP level?
Forgive me if this is common knowledge, I sorta new here.
That out of the way, couple questions....
Who makes the rods for ZZP? Not sure if you missed my question, also I'd assume these are made by the same company that makes the 2.4 rods for you guys?
What clutch is in this car?
Any plans to fix the headgasket issue and run it at the track at the current HP level?
Forgive me if this is common knowledge, I sorta new here.
-from my knowledge they have the rods forged in the USA, i doubt they are going to release who makes them for them
-clutchmaster 725 series twin disc
-from what he has told me, yes. he is also going automatic transmission this year
04-04-2011, 02:45 PM
#202
Finally I'm seeing some wicked hp numbers from Cobalt's the likes of what I've seen/heard of for the N-SRT4's and/or C-SRT4's...
LSJ upgraded parts making in excess of 800whp...
LNF turbo upgrade in the works...
LNF upgrade cams...
I might be a relative newbie here, but I'm impressed!
04-04-2011, 02:50 PM
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Not so cheap anymore.
04-04-2011, 03:02 PM
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04-04-2011, 03:05 PM
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Wait till people realize, that they need an expensive twin disc clutch, expensive ID injectors, and expensive fuel system setup. Thats also assuming that the stock ignition system is up to the task. What about drivetrain that can hold all of that power? Sound expensive?
Not so cheap anymore.
Not so cheap anymore.
and i agree with ebristol, you be trollin. stop instigating
04-04-2011, 03:05 PM
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We've talked about that a few times. That's one of the reasons I don't own a turbo V8 yet. Making 1000+ at the wheels is real easy with a lot of cubes and a turbo, but what would I do with it? 1500HP in a '75 Vette is not exactly safe to drive around.
04-04-2011, 03:05 PM
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Its easy to deceive people and make this stuff seam easy and not sound expensive when in reality, its not exactly cheap.
04-04-2011, 03:06 PM
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Loving all the people who think that making 900whp will be a bolt in job now.
That out of the way, couple questions....
Who makes the rods for ZZP? Not sure if you missed my question, also I'd assume these are made by the same company that makes the 2.4 rods for you guys?
What clutch is in this car?
Any plans to fix the headgasket issue and run it at the track at the current HP level?
Forgive me if this is common knowledge, I sorta new here.
That out of the way, couple questions....
Who makes the rods for ZZP? Not sure if you missed my question, also I'd assume these are made by the same company that makes the 2.4 rods for you guys?
What clutch is in this car?
Any plans to fix the headgasket issue and run it at the track at the current HP level?
Forgive me if this is common knowledge, I sorta new here.
I didn't miss the rods question, but not we're not going to post that information.
Ryan has a Clutchmasters twin disk clutch.
No.
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04-04-2011, 03:07 PM
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04-04-2011, 03:34 PM
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this is NOT a lot of money for the automotive world that has gone in to this build. CSS however is VERY cheap because, lets face it, the demographic for these cars is teenagers and young adults who likely dnt have money to spend. is a $2k turbo kit cheap? yes. does that mean everyone with a $500 honda will have one? no. Why? because the demographics that buy cars like that dont spend that kind of money on mods.
comparison. This engine, shortblock, head, headwork, internals, etc, all cost about as much as a SC kit for the LSx platform.
comparatively, this is NOT an expensive build, and is what i would call mad cheap.
additionally, its impractical...i doubt ANYONE will even ATTEMPT making this kind of power on their cobalt. Maybe the Kappa guys...but not any of the Deltas.
Finally, most people here are afriad of anything they need to build or fabricate themselves. IE no one will build a fuel system to handle this.
04-04-2011, 09:21 PM
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Does this mean you can get me to 450-500 HP at the wheels in a bolt on kit pretty soon? My Cobalt would be happy there for daily driving. Although I am a little disappointed I will have to loose the Supercharger.
04-04-2011, 09:42 PM
#218
do you need help reading between lines?
this is NOT a lot of money for the automotive world that has gone in to this build. CSS however is VERY cheap because, lets face it, the demographic for these cars is teenagers and young adults who likely dnt have money to spend. is a $2k turbo kit cheap? yes. does that mean everyone with a $500 honda will have one? no. Why? because the demographics that buy cars like that dont spend that kind of money on mods.
comparison. This engine, shortblock, head, headwork, internals, etc, all cost about as much as a SC kit for the LSx platform.
comparatively, this is NOT an expensive build, and is what i would call mad cheap.
additionally, its impractical...i doubt ANYONE will even ATTEMPT making this kind of power on their cobalt. Maybe the Kappa guys...but not any of the Deltas.
Finally, most people here are afriad of anything they need to build or fabricate themselves. IE no one will build a fuel system to handle this.
this is NOT a lot of money for the automotive world that has gone in to this build. CSS however is VERY cheap because, lets face it, the demographic for these cars is teenagers and young adults who likely dnt have money to spend. is a $2k turbo kit cheap? yes. does that mean everyone with a $500 honda will have one? no. Why? because the demographics that buy cars like that dont spend that kind of money on mods.
comparison. This engine, shortblock, head, headwork, internals, etc, all cost about as much as a SC kit for the LSx platform.
comparatively, this is NOT an expensive build, and is what i would call mad cheap.
additionally, its impractical...i doubt ANYONE will even ATTEMPT making this kind of power on their cobalt. Maybe the Kappa guys...but not any of the Deltas.
Finally, most people here are afriad of anything they need to build or fabricate themselves. IE no one will build a fuel system to handle this.
04-05-2011, 02:34 AM
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How the **** wont it fit in a redline? Is it possible to get one of these in my 2.2 ion? Id like to make 650whp. Going to check my motor out tomarrow and see if its still good. If its not ill be getting another new motor, but if it is ill abuse the hell outa it.
04-05-2011, 02:56 AM
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Wait till people realize, that they need an expensive twin disc clutch, expensive ID injectors, and expensive fuel system setup. Thats also assuming that the stock ignition system is up to the task. What about drivetrain that can hold all of that power? Sound expensive?
Not so cheap anymore.
Not so cheap anymore.
I believe the point of this thread was to show the capabilities of certain parts and build aspects that will be more then capable of meeting the power demands of the average consumer when set up properly.
That being said the solid majority of the above average tuning enthusiast for this platform will most likely be concerned with the 400-600WHP range. Many of which will still want their balt as a daily driver yet confident it can withstand the power it has, with the potential to go beyond that if they decide to take that next step.
correct me if Im wrong