i can help out with a couple of the questions

-from my knowledge they have the rods forged in the USA, i doubt they are going to release who makes them for them

-clutchmaster 725 series twin disc

-from what he has told me, yes. he is also going automatic transmission this year

 

^^ agreed on both accounts;

Finally I'm seeing some wicked hp numbers from Cobalt's the likes of what I've seen/heard of for the N-SRT4's and/or C-SRT4's...

LSJ upgraded parts making in excess of 800whp...
LNF turbo upgrade in the works...
LNF upgrade cams...

I might be a relative newbie here, but I'm impressed!

 

Reread my post. I asked you if a shortblock for 3600 dollars was a whole motor. Where does it say anything about 6-7k dollars? Where does it say 1000bhp? Where does it say 4 cylinder?

 

Wait till people realize, that they need an expensive twin disc clutch, expensive ID injectors, and expensive fuel system setup. Thats also assuming that the stock ignition system is up to the task. What about drivetrain that can hold all of that power? Sound expensive?

Not so cheap anymore.

 

Why are you trying to start a fight? I am not going to get into the specifics of who said what and what each person was talking about. Find a different thread to troll.

 

lol, you know it can only end badly. At least we expected that going in.

 

this. ZZP would have my money if they went into the LSx world.
its still mad cheap even after all that. Go look at what a build like this costs on other platforms

and i agree with ebristol, you be trollin. stop instigating

 

We've talked about that a few times. That's one of the reasons I don't own a turbo V8 yet. Making 1000+ at the wheels is real easy with a lot of cubes and a turbo, but what would I do with it? 1500HP in a '75 Vette is not exactly safe to drive around.

 

I'm not starting a fight. I've asked you a question twice and you are avoiding it. You even changed your price of an engine from $3600 to $6-7k.

Its easy to deceive people and make this stuff seam easy and not sound expensive when in reality, its not exactly cheap.

 

Yes, it is definitely not something we plan to attempt to make mainstream. However, it does help us build 500whp setups more reliably.

I didn't miss the rods question, but not we're not going to post that information.

Ryan has a Clutchmasters twin disk clutch.

No.

 

Mad cheap? I expect to see at least 10% of CSS.net on this setup by next year making 1000bhp then.

 

do you need help reading between lines?

this is NOT a lot of money for the automotive world that has gone in to this build. CSS however is VERY cheap because, lets face it, the demographic for these cars is teenagers and young adults who likely dnt have money to spend. is a $2k turbo kit cheap? yes. does that mean everyone with a $500 honda will have one? no. Why? because the demographics that buy cars like that dont spend that kind of money on mods.

comparison. This engine, shortblock, head, headwork, internals, etc, all cost about as much as a SC kit for the LSx platform.

comparatively, this is NOT an expensive build, and is what i would call mad cheap.

additionally, its impractical...i doubt ANYONE will even ATTEMPT making this kind of power on their cobalt. Maybe the Kappa guys...but not any of the Deltas.
Finally, most people here are afriad of anything they need to build or fabricate themselves. IE no one will build a fuel system to handle this.

 

can't wait for the auto-swap thread lol.

 

wish you had this block stuff out 2 years ago. would have saved me some time and money.

oh well, I'm keeping this car so one of these days it's going to need a motor rebuild.

 

price?

 

Does this mean you can get me to 450-500 HP at the wheels in a bolt on kit pretty soon? My Cobalt would be happy there for daily driving. Although I am a little disappointed I will have to loose the Supercharger.

 

I am sorry to tell you but these motors dont fit in Redlines

 

10000000% true..css members are CHEAP and like u said try to build an lsx or anything for that cheap of a price. The tranny and rearend in me and my dads camaro drag car cost 7-8k itself not including the driveshaft we had made

 

am i missing the joke here? why wouldn't it fit?

 

 

 

How the **** wont it fit in a redline? Is it possible to get one of these in my 2.2 ion? Id like to make 650whp. Going to check my motor out tomarrow and see if its still good. If its not ill be getting another new motor, but if it is ill abuse the hell outa it.

 

Most people going for that type of power on this platform are going to be able and willing to spend that type of money.

I believe the point of this thread was to show the capabilities of certain parts and build aspects that will be more then capable of meeting the power demands of the average consumer when set up properly.

That being said the solid majority of the above average tuning enthusiast for this platform will most likely be concerned with the 400-600WHP range. Many of which will still want their balt as a daily driver yet confident it can withstand the power it has, with the potential to go beyond that if they decide to take that next step.

correct me if Im wrong

 

My car moves 3-5k a year, Id be happy to make 650whp.

 

Stonny is joking with darkman. You guys take **** too seriously