I wasn't making any personal against you... I just feel there are others that would qualify to make said thread.

I'm IN no way shape or form an EXPERT tuner, I still call Area47 alot when I tune, sure he gets mad but thats what friends are for, I text fast98 alot to about ****!

check hptuners.com "forum" there are basics in there as well

 

Zzp!

 

Some people don't know about the hptuners forums, or just don't want to go over there. Either way I plan on making the thread, if you want to comment on the work or add anything feel free. The way I see it is if bryan or sean or josh or tom or anyone else wanted to make it....they would have.

 

agreed NOT

 

yaaaaa ottp > zzp when it comes to tunes and pretty much everything else. This isn't an opinion its a fact lol.

CUSTOM > everything however.

 

just because it is custom, doesn't make it better or good lol

 

Nope but generally if a tuner has a clue to what there doing a custom hands on tune will be better then a canned tune. Every car varies a little bit so its always better to be there in person.

 

O I agree, im just saying that custom doesn't mean good

 

agreed, although it worked out for my exhaust lol. You should see the welds on it and man o man does it sound good!

 

Isn't that the damn truth! Just because someone has a cable doesn't mean they should plug it in! Not all ***** and vaginas are compatible... followin' mah drift here!

 

OTTP just my opinion.


I'm probably going to get banned now...

 

"Bandwagon" does not equal "fact." On the other hand, I'm not too worried about it. People seem to be coming around more and more on a daily basis. Many people are starting to realize that these comments are never accompanied by actual reasons or any type of proof for that matter. Soon all the myths about ZZP being inferior will be dispelled.

 

i personally believe that this thread should be a discussion between the customers...... so OTTP & ZZP people should stay out of it.

 

watch what you say guys, if you say anything questioning zzp, youll get banned.

 

No, you won't get banned for saying something questioning ZZP. Questioning is welcome. Constant harrassing or pointless mockery is not accepted.

 

OTT

ZZP screwed me 3 times.
1. Didn't include a front 02 extension with my header/dp combo
2. When i ordered one a front one, it came setup for rear
3. Ordered light bulbs from them, lasted 1 month.

 

Yea tell that to the cream I have to use everynight

 

I just try not to talk too much car stuff with them.. they seem like nice guys though...

And zach, go for it.. By all means give someone something to search for. Me and u both know your not the top tuner in the world, and so does everyone else; Seniors on here have seen your first posts about exhaust questions and hptuners..

but obviously, if you havent made a build thread yet, you have a general grasp of whats going on.. and thats what 90% of the new tuners have problems with.. Just bein able to get a hold of the program and start their first tune..

We all know who the big names are in here, and they will be able to help out too... But They are more geared toward helping people who take the time to research, and read before they ask... and i wouldnt expect them to take the time and write a starter-up article when they have spent countless hours perfecting their knowledge...

 

i have ordered parts from both ZZP & OTTP. and i honestly felt that i had a better experience as a customer with OTTP. for example.... i bought a part on a tuesday and it was at my house thursday night and i didn't pay for special shipping or anything. they are just cool like that. and lsjwannabe & fast98 are very knowledgable guys and i when i've had questions for them they would reply almost instantly. and i didn't feel like a retard or like i was in a calculus class after reading their responses.

 

We sell a lot of stuff at ZZP, hence there will be good experiences and times where a mitake is made. If you're order is incorrect an email or call will correct the problem. The majority of customers love our service.

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...=153949&page=6
received my injectors and harness yesterday (Monday Feb. 16th,2009) well packaged everything surrounded by nice foam and injectors were sealed, wrapped OVER AND OVER again lol which is a big + if you ask me. Can't ever go wrong with zzp. shipping is fast as hell, processsing is even quicker. thank you again zzp

FYI, mine shipped the same day I ordered and I received them yesterday

i got my injectors, harness and programmed pcm yesterday!! Very well packaged and get product!! Completely satisfied here

I just installed this pod and it is absolutely awesome. Thanks so much ZZP for the super quick shipping and perfect product. One of the few things i have bought that is worth far more than what i paid.

Originally Posted by Cobalttc05
how long it take to get to you?

Just a few days...same week. For Canada thats nuts. Worth more than even 85 bucks.

Got it today. THANKS ZZP! it looks awesome, almost an exact match to OEM! It's gonna look real clean when i get my gauges and put it in!

Got mine and the quality is superb!

got mine installed looks awesome
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Those are just some people in the last week or so. There are many more.
ZZP dyno's more cobalts and Redlines than any vendor here. The day we had issues with a customer's car leading to the current 5 page thread, we dyno'd two others after it. We have a Cobalt on the dyno as I'm typing this. We did 5 hours of dyno work on a Cobalt yesterday where a customer drove in 7 hours. In short, we do a LOT of Cobalt work here. What I find interesting is the number of people who have never bought from ZZP or have never run a ZZP tune talking about how much better another brand is than ours? How would you know? It is going to be fun this summer when the tide turns and everyone wants nothing but ZZP tunes. We have some pretty bad ass stuff coming out very soon...


We have the lowest pricing on injectors, a group buy that gets you the harness for $1 and the lowest price on a bolt in HE, PCMs, and dual pass kits. At ZZP, you get more and pay less.

 

soooooo in order for you to have the lowest price on injectors you have to have a Group Buy? thats weaksos

 

lol they were talking about the canned tunes..im sure ur dyno tunes are right on just like anyone elses but there have been horror stories on the .net about zzp canned and i have never ready anywhere anything bad about OTT canned tunes..just gives us unsuspecting buyers a little more confidence in a product noone has bitched about...please dont ban me

 

No, there has not been horror stories about ZZP canned tunes. The ones that were going around had us confused with a completely different company. This is what I'm talking about when I mention the "myths" that will be dispelled.

No group buy required. ZZP has the lowest price on injectors.

 

OTTP josh(fast98) will help you with anything you made need.

 

guess we all cant read right then