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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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OTT all the way
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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Very first post of the thread
Originally Posted by effex80
I plan on purchasing 60LBS injectors/harness, ML Header/DP, CXracing H/e, and a 2.6 or 7 pulley very soon here.
Originally Posted by hatrickstu
*restrains from posting crude remarks*

zoomer this thread is about the tuning between both companies. not injector shipments (although i understand the point you are TRYING to make)

it might be more beneficial to address the actual issue at hand. i am saying that in the most kind of ways. i <3 zpp, please dont ban me...
I refrained from mentioning any other company specificly because I'm tired of hearing that I'm 'vendor bashing'. So I'm making generalized statements specific to ZZP. I'm not going to come in here and say ZZP FTW or anything childish that gives no information what-so-ever.

In regards to your stating that I should keep to the issue at hand, perhaps you should read the original post of this thread (I've quoted it for you in case that's a problem) where the user stated he wanted injectors.
Originally Posted by rallycobalt06
soooooo in order for you to have the lowest price on injectors you have to have a Group Buy? thats weaksos
We already have the lowest pricing on injectors. The group buy gets you a harness for $1 more.
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The problem with asking 'what is the best' around here is that it turns into a popularity contest of what people bought. If you ask about intakes, invariably most people say injen even thought it's clearly not the best choice. This is then followed by FTW or 'my car runs like a raped ape' or one of 10 other non-informative posts. When this happens, everyone is stuck running the same times, having the same limitations and the community as a whole suffers. That is why people in this market are not fast and have not made much progress in 3 years of modifying one of the most modifiable platforms on the market today. Soon this will change and running mid 13's will not be the norm, 12's will. ZZP will be leading this charge. If everyone here is posting about what they are running and saying it's the best, pushing water injection and mocking science then the average ETs in this market will drop slowly. If people get on board to the idea of testing new ideas and researching parts, it will happen quickly.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Zooomer
Very first post of the thread


I refrained from mentioning any other company specificly because I'm tired of hearing that I'm 'vendor bashing'. So I'm making generalized statements specific to ZZP. I'm not going to come in here and say ZZP FTW or anything childish that gives no information what-so-ever.

I can't come in here and quote and give specifics without totally bashing you so I refrained and just said that....Sorry to disappoint you with my "Childish" nature....
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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Wow what a joke of a thread. The only complaint I have about zzp is turbo tim's assanine reply that I got when asking a question about an item.
As to asking about which tunes are better that's just fanboy bullshit and you all know it, noone has proof that either's are bad, unlike intense.
Will be buying items from both companies, ordered from zzp and had no problems, haven't ordered from ottp but plan on doing so later down the road.
Cheapest injectors looks like ZZP. /thread.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by brickerenator
I bet zoomer wouldn't have been mad if it had been "ZZP FTW"
And I bet ottp wouldnt've been opposed either, I mean would you be if it was your company?
Quit acting like 2 year olds.
They're both decent companies offering different and similar things to the community, people need to grow the **** up and quit fanboying it's such a joke and I'm tired of seeing it everywhere I turn.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 01:58 PM
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To the op you have a pm
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 02:00 PM
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lol
I'm not fanboying

never purchased anything from OTT
don't ever plan on it
unless they sell stock parts
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Zooomer
In regards to your stating that I should keep to the issue at hand, perhaps you should read the original post of this thread (I've quoted it for you in case that's a problem) where the user stated he wanted injectors.
meh, wrong again. he didnt ask any questions about anything BUT who was a better tuner.

back on topic: OP, fast98 has tuned me since i got my new pulley and stuff. car runs like a champ
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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ya know. for the canned tune thing. if you two vendors are interested. i can have a dyno show down on a car this weekend to show the power differences.

just throwing that out there
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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hmm... An actual benchmark...

lets see who backs out first.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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that would be interesting
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
ya know. for the canned tune thing. if you two vendors are interested. i can have a dyno show down on a car this weekend to show the power differences.

just throwing that out there
That is the best thing I have heard all day.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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i like it.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
ya know. for the canned tune thing. if you two vendors are interested. i can have a dyno show down on a car this weekend to show the power differences.

just throwing that out there
Win
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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We'd have no problem with an un-biased dyno comparison. The difficult part would be assembling the un-biased committee. It would be sort of like choosing a jury for a high-profile trial.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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You can trust bryan with files
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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We'd have no problem with an un-biased dyno comparison. The difficult part would be assembling the un-biased committee. It would be sort of like choosing a jury for a high-profile trial.
im pretty sure that bryan could provide that.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
ya know. for the canned tune thing. if you two vendors are interested. i can have a dyno show down on a car this weekend to show the power differences.

just throwing that out there
that would be an awesome show this saturday
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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Un-biased comparison???

I bet Bryan could even have Chad, or Scottie dyno the cars so that bryan is taken out of the consideration all together!
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:09 PM
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theres gonna be like 10 of us ss guys up there, there will be witnesses
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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then there should be plenty of you to get video, pics, etc.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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oh yea we got a planned 3-4 cameras
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:14 PM
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it will be on a dynojet 424x. runs can be back to back. logs taken, numbers post in any form you wish. sae, std, din, uncorrected, whatever you wish to keep it fair between the two. it will be on the same car with no mod change. i won't nominate my car.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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I can't speak from experience for either vendor, but the last time I checked, ZZP had the highest HP and TQ LSJ on here correct? I mean shouldn't that be worth something?
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i'd let you use my car but we couldnt get the clutch put in monday, i'll ask forrest if he's interested? they can tune for the setup he has



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