2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old 05-20-2009, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by YellowLT View Post
Not all the cams are swappable between all the models thats why it's not on there.
But this thread isnt about swapping between all models, it is LSJ-L61, hence why I am looking for some SS/SC cams.
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Old 05-28-2009, 08:17 AM
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Can you change this :

Engine:
Exhaust Manifold
Downpipe
Exhaust
Intake Manifold (Will Physically fit but TB will not bolt up)
#32 Injectors Fit Leak free, Tuning is needed.
Pistons
Rods

Valve Springs
Supercharger and Throttle Body with Intake Manifold (tunning needed)
Drive Belt
to this :


Engine:
Exhaust Manifold
Downpipe
Exhaust
Intake Manifold (Will Physically fit but TB will not bolt up)
#32 Injectors Fit Leak free, Tuning is needed.
Rods (only with special non LSJ nor L61 pistons)
Valve Springs
Supercharger and Throttle Body with Intake Manifold (tunning needed)
Drive Belt


looks like some could be mistaken
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Old 05-29-2009, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by tru2nrtt777 View Post
But this thread isnt about swapping between all models, it is LSJ-L61, hence why I am looking for some SS/SC cams.
There are way too many variations in the cams, depending on the years and i really don't feel like getting that specific
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Old 05-29-2009, 11:56 AM
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would an SS lsj cluster work on an LS? are the speed sensors the same?
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Old 05-29-2009, 04:09 PM
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the clusters fit and work correctly.
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Old 05-29-2009, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tru2nrtt777 View Post
the clusters fit and work correctly.
sa-wheat I am getting a kph Canadian SS/SC cluster for 50.00 then lol
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Old 06-09-2009, 10:57 PM
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if i was to swap in the SS headers/Dp and cat back into my 2.2, what would i expect to see in terms of performance or even response?
anyone done the full swap?
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Old 06-10-2009, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobaltsky05 View Post
sa-wheat I am getting a kph Canadian SS/SC cluster for 50.00 then lol
I know the seller youre refering to, I was originally gonna buy that but work got slow...
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:29 AM
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I'm sure it's been asked, but I don't feel like searching...since rods/pistons/valvetrain in the 2.2 seem to be a weak point with FI, how much power can the stock LSJ stuff take? If it's a good chunk more, I'd consider just upgrading to those rather than aftermarket since I wouldn't have plans for power levels to pass 300 crank hp. Just would like to see the possibility of 250+ whp with less risk of wrecking something.
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Old 09-10-2009, 10:26 AM
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What do you mean by using LSJ parts instead of aftermarket? Are you still going to use the L61 block and LSJ internals? If you going to take the engine apart, you should use aftermarket parts, because they are cheaper and better than LSJ parts. Or are you talking about swapping the engine engine? Now you will have a completely different set of problems.
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Originally Posted by YellowLT View Post
Here a List of all The SS Parts that fit on the Base LS LT Models

Suspension:
FE 3,5 Shocks
FE 3,5 Struts
FE 3,5 Springs
FE 3,5 Front Sway bar
FE 3,5 Control Arms
Wheel hubs
Strut tower mounts
Rear axle
FE 5 Steering rack


Engine:
Exhaust Manifold
Downpipe
Exhaust
Intake Manifold (Will Physically fit but TB will not bolt up)
#32 Injectors Fit Leak free, Tuning is needed.
Pistons
Rods
Valve Springs
Supercharger and Throttle Body with Intake Manifold (tunning needed)
Drive Belt

Interior:
All of It

Exterior
Front Fascia
Rear Fascia
Rocker Panels
Deck Lid w or w/o Wing
Rims (07 only if you have factory alloys wheels.)
Headlights (SS are slightly tinted. I believe 07 has no orange reflector over DRL)





If you have anything else, I'll be glad to add it.
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will the manifold and turbo off the cobalt ss 08 and up bolt on like the sc and will it work on a 2.2l ?
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by flyg5 View Post
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will the manifold and turbo off the cobalt ss 08 and up bolt on like the sc and will it work on a 2.2l ?
Yes the exhaust side parts off the LNF work on the other engines, but the intake doesnt.
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i have a thread about 2.2 tuning options and what would be involved in different ones...if my current info is correct that almost any ectoech head will bolt to any block, you would have to swap the direct injection head for the intake mani to work....which would involve a harness and ecm swap as well for the di to work...among other things that im still working out the particulars of. maven, any corrections or additions? (and please comment on my thread in the 2.2 section, knowing these cars as well as you seem to it would be appreciated)
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I know the front and rear fascia's will bolt on to my LT, however, what is the difference between GM's ground effects package and the SS fascia's?

Would it be more sensible to put on the effects package or fascia swap?
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Originally Posted by Tribute View Post
I know the front and rear fascia's will bolt on to my LT, however, what is the difference between GM's ground effects package and the SS fascia's?

Would it be more sensible to put on the effects package or fascia swap?
given that they are bth just appearance mods, it comes down to whichever you like best
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Old 01-13-2010, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Maven View Post
Yes the exhaust side parts off the LNF work on the other engines, but the intake doesnt.
i have a vx220 with 2.2 (l61)ecotec engine and in quarter mile time in malta with the 147bhp i made 13.4sec and now we gona beginning tuned the engine with nos wet kit and nos launcher controller and dta s60 with stand alone ecu
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maven or hunterkiller89, will the lsj or lnf trans blot up to the l61? if it does which clutch and flywheel would be needed, or would it be the disk from one and flywheel and press plate from the other?
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Originally Posted by Maven View Post
Yes the exhaust side parts off the LNF work on the other engines, but the intake doesnt.
HI MAVEN GOOD WORK


I have a vx220 with 2.2 (l61)ecotec engine and in quarter mile time in malta with the 147bhp i made 13.4sec and now we gona beginning tuned the engine with nos wet kit and nos launcher controller and dta s60 with stand alone ecu
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Originally Posted by constantproject View Post
maven or hunterkiller89, will the lsj or lnf trans blot up to the l61? if it does which clutch and flywheel would be needed, or would it be the disk from one and flywheel and press plate from the other?
AFAIK it doesnt directly bolt up, but you wouldnt need a whole lot of fabrication to make it work. Maven explained this one to me a while back, but i cant remember the specifics (i asked about 4-5 different trannys, cant remember which needed what)
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the LSJ physically bolts directly to the L61 and all of our ECOTECs. BUT it wont work with all of them without mods. there may be shift cable clearance issues on some cars, you need the proper flywheel and clutch, you need LSJ axles and intermediate shaft, mounts, possible wiring change and most likely a tune to run an F35 in a non 2.0 car.
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i figured it was that..."simple" lol just curious if it would bolt up, but from what im finding a cryo'd f23 w lsd is just as capable or better...is that wrong?
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i figured it was that..."simple" lol just curious if it would bolt up, but from what im finding a cryo'd f23 w lsd is just as capable or better...is that wrong?
if youre building a street car I dont think you even need a cryo'd box. A limited slip diff and ou should be good. For the cost of removal, disassembly, treatment, reassembly and installation you could EASILY pick up a spare F23, possibly two
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haha thats a good point
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Originally Posted by YellowLT View Post
It's more that the TB is electronic and will cause the car to go into Limp mode. There are no after market TB's. Crate Engine Depot has a kit to put the 2.4 manifold on to the 2.2 using the L61 TB
Couple things...

a) Is this what you're reffering to from crate engine depot? Click me

b) Is there some sort of adaptor plate that is out that allows the L61 TB to mount to the LE5 mani? If not, Im sure one can be made...

and c)
Ive heard that the LE5 manifold can increase power by about 13hp. Would it really make that much of a difference or has anyone tested to see what the gains are?
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Originally Posted by Got2BeGT View Post
Couple things...

a) Is this what you're reffering to from crate engine depot? Click me

b) Is there some sort of adaptor plate that is out that allows the L61 TB to mount to the LE5 mani? If not, Im sure one can be made...

and c)
Ive heard that the LE5 manifold can increase power by about 13hp. Would it really make that much of a difference or has anyone tested to see what the gains are?
a) yes
b) looks like the above kit includes this adaptor
c) this is ture, however some have also reported a substantial loss in low end power, so that power under the curve is almost exactly equal before and after. Some dont experience this though...be warned
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