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Old 04-15-2009, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TwoStep
Nothing wrong with street tuning, if that all you have.

A professional Dyno tune will **** on a street tune EVERY TIME.

I guess it will take you getting tuned, Having the car run like ****, Then putting it on a dyno, and realizing the tune sucked. THEN HOPEFULLY you will take it somewhere worth a **** and have it tuned for real.

Street tunes are good for one thing.

Getting the car driveable enough to drive it to the real tuner. Thats it.

Do you think all these guys that run 11.5's and 10.9's etc etc are sitting in there car tuning it themselves? LOL the answer is No.
If you drive your car on a dyno a Dyno tune is perfect, if your drive your car on the street, theres nothing wrong with a street tune.

Who are "all these guys "running 11.5s and 10.9s? Ive never seen a street driven balt run 11's. let alone 10's. And of course as mentioned there is no live tuning suite available for his car, SOOOO it doesnt really matter anyway. All that aside I still fail to see how datalogs taking from a street run are superior to those taking on a dyno run.
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
yea, a ported blower/TB wouldnt change boost pressures. Im just saying when i ran a stg 2 pulley i was at like 11psi, and you're at 13psi. Now that i run a 2.9 im at 13psi, and a couple others running a 2.9 are at 15psi. Im always a couple behind..idk if thats because im flowing better, or if i have a leak of some kind though.
yea i know wat your saying. but maybe you should check your lines and etc to figure out why your not boosting more than 13psi. cuz i'm runnin that right now. but it can be the tune also or maybe cuz its auto?????
your the one who inspirated me to do my build so your car should be the shiznit. lol
Old 04-15-2009, 02:45 PM
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ur 13psi on a 3"??? Shut I'ma me running a 3.1" I was hoping for a good 14psi
Old 04-15-2009, 03:00 PM
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I'm hoping for around 13 psi...
Old 04-15-2009, 04:11 PM
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General rule of thumb. If you are running the same size pulley as someone else and getting less boost then you are better off then they are.
Old 04-15-2009, 04:16 PM
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ill figure it out soon enough. I have a new pypass valve actuator that im gonna install one day soon
Old 04-16-2009, 01:00 PM
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yea i got the gm stage 2 pulley running around 13 psi.
was runnin 15 on the pulley but thats when i was runnin way too rich. so when vince tune it than now i'm runnin 13psi
Old 04-16-2009, 01:08 PM
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...thats kinda weird... AFR's dont affect your boost pressure at all...
Old 04-16-2009, 01:59 PM
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Yeah, that is kind of odd...
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no cuz he made me run alot more fuel in my car when he tune it. like i used like 95 percent of my injectors so that cause it to run rich and more boost cuz of the fuel. but when i was tune right i am only using 80-88 percent of my injectors. so that could be it. but not really sure.
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Originally Posted by stenguyen1
no cuz he made me run alot more fuel in my car when he tune it. like i used like 95 percent of my injectors so that cause it to run rich and more boost cuz of the fuel. but when i was tune right i am only using 80-88 percent of my injectors. so that could be it. but not really sure.
naw dude...fueling will not affect boost levels. boost is created in the manifold, and that is also where the MAP sensor is. Fuel injectors are downstream of that, in the head just above the valves. Adding things into the head after the manifold should have no effect on the manifold pressures.
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here's a little something is pent a good hour making, made this for you blown 2.2's wanting something for a backround etc, image worked on using Cs3, i did not go into extreme detail, but i believe it looks nice, i was not able to paint the blower or valve cover, well i could but i could only get a matte/flat color out of it, i was not able to get a shiny black blower with a shiny black valve cover, only a flat black blower and cover, so i decided not to save it


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Very cool man. I have CS4 on my work computer. I had no idea how to use it...
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Originally Posted by ebristol
Very cool man. I have CS4 on my work computer. I had no idea how to use it...
wanna share ur license key with me i'd love to upgrade

Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
naw dude...fueling will not affect boost levels. boost is created in the manifold, and that is also where the MAP sensor is. Fuel injectors are downstream of that, in the head just above the valves. Adding things into the head after the manifold should have no effect on the manifold pressures.
i still need to figure out how ima mount my MAP, the hole on the manifold is bigger than the nipple on the MAP, and also my map is a twist on map, i dont have the plastic flange o'rdeal thing to bolt it, so ima have to find a way to put it on and keep boost from blowing it out, im thinking of using quick steel to mold my own plate lay it over the map mold it in shape and make a sort of holder to hold the map down into the manifold


ps. here's a shot of how the image would look like a phone

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Old 04-16-2009, 11:12 PM
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im confused...it looks the exact same as the picture on google, only the colors are all brighter/more vivid

edit: nvm...just noticed the 2.2 valve cover
also, the sensor i circled here:

is a 1bar MAP sensor that just so happens to fit directly into the LSJ manifold.
Old 04-16-2009, 11:33 PM
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it was the pic from google of the cavi 2.2, and the pic of a lsj on google, i saved them both, re-sized the lsj one as it was too small, copied over the blower section, and added it to the 2.2 image, than went back and cleaned up some areas, thats why u see that sensor there :p just to be clear i did not put a 2.2 valve cover on a 2.0 image, i put the whoel blower assembly on a 2.2 image
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
naw dude...fueling will not affect boost levels. boost is created in the manifold, and that is also where the MAP sensor is. Fuel injectors are downstream of that, in the head just above the valves. Adding things into the head after the manifold should have no effect on the manifold pressures.
well alright. i was just sayin. i didn't really know if that was the case. thanks for the info tho. just weird how i could be boostin 15 than go down to 13.
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Ok so I have to grind a part of the engine, can someone label the specific part in a pic?? Like circle it?
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so will our (2.2) map work on the blower? from what i seen. a few 2.2's just plugged it off.
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you don't need a map on the sc cuz we don't use it. but you can use it to plug the hole much better than finding something to put in it.

look at interview build he got a video of wat he had to grind down.

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oh ok thx. i was like what lol. but yeah you have a nice setup stenguyen1
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I made up my own thread now since I'm the LAP and I don't want to intrude on people's threads. I have a question about the MAP sensor that totally doesn't seem right. Could you guys please start visiting my thread and possibly answer my question?

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-lap-performance-tech-168/genes-2-2-lap-supercharger-build-166563/

Thanks, Gene.
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Originally Posted by Gene Culley
I made up my own thread now since I'm the LAP and I don't want to intrude on people's threads. I have a question about the MAP sensor that totally doesn't seem right. Could you guys please start visiting my thread and possibly answer my question?

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=166563

Thanks, Gene.
Subscribed to your thread.
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Thanks guys. Will check it out.


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