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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 12:34 AM
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Dude, I got the EXACT same problem. I got an LSJ fuel rail for the 42s and I'm getting fuel pressure and everything, and it runs GOOD for like 1 second and then brrrr. It shuts itself off. I even had a mechanic look at it, everything is good except it keeps shutting itself off.

Think it could be in the tune? I'll email vince.
yea i tried data login it and emailin it to vince but my car wont stay running long enough to get nething im in the process of rewireing my stock injectors and im gonna see if it starts and idles with them
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 12:36 AM
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did you guys re pin the harness? or did u soder it?
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 12:39 AM
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did you guys re pin the harness? or did u soder it?
i'mm wondering if it has to do with how they're doing the injectors becasue there are ALOT of 2.2's running vinces tunes as well as turbo'd 2.2 it's strange they they're having issues
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 12:41 AM
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i tried swappin the wires around but nothing the wires are hooked up correct 4 the injectors
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 12:45 AM
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ok than i might be scared for no reason lol, im hoping for, no offense, user error :p cuz man im about to turn my build around, sell my turbo **** if vinces turbo tunes arent equal to his blower tunes lol
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 12:54 AM
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well i loaded the stock tune and finished wiring the stock injector harness up going to put the stock injectors and see what happens be back with some results
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 12:55 AM
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k axiously waiting over here, need to know if i need to make a FS thread before i leave work in 5minutes lol i will bail turbo and jump on the supercharged train with no hesitation
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 01:14 AM
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ohh jeez I almost have everything Ineed to start my new turbo build....my injector harness is already made so hopefully mine is not messed up
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 01:18 AM
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ok plugs are fouled out but it starts and im able to keep it running with me holding the gas
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PsychoCam
ohh jeez I almost have everything Ineed to start my new turbo build....my injector harness is already made so hopefully mine is not messed up
i'm thinking it's not an issue on vinces part.. he got my car tuned up real easy ..and has tuned multiple 2.2 turbos before.. hell he had mrsilent13's car running before

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ok plugs are fouled out but it starts and im able to keep it running with me holding the gas
soo looks like you need new plugs then hopefully you're good to go


hey man you should come out to the dyno day i'm starting it's april 18th it looks like just to hang out and maybe do a pull or 2 to get some numbers

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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 01:20 AM
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I will be running the full alpa kit with different bov and the 42 gmpp stage 2 injectors w/ harness.
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 01:23 AM
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soo looks like you need new plugs then hopefully you're good to go


hey man you should come out to the dyno day i'm starting it's april 18th it looks like just to hang out and maybe do a pull or 2 to get some numbers [/QUOTE]

its running with the stock injectors in im gonna change the plugs in the morning and see if i can get it running a lil better im thinking its the 60 lbs injectors the lenght and over all size it the same as my stock .. is it possible the injectors are bad or ?

my neigbors may hate me 4 starting my car a bunch of times i have straight exhaust no cat res or muffler lol
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 01:28 AM
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I know 60's are pretty big but with vince's tune he should more than likely get ur car up and runnin. I am stumped with all this injector problems. I mean u had ur old set up running with no problem and those were 42's.

u were running untuned correct b4?
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 01:31 AM
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This is weird, u guys are scaring me into a m62 instead
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by PsychoCam
I know 60's are pretty big but with vince's tune he should more than likely get ur car up and runnin. I am stumped with all this injector problems. I mean u had ur old set up running with no problem and those were 42's.

u were running untuned correct b4?
yea untuned what are you having trouble with ? wiring tthem up to the correct wires ?
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by BIG-DAVE
soo looks like you need new plugs then hopefully you're good to go


hey man you should come out to the dyno day i'm starting it's april 18th it looks like just to hang out and maybe do a pull or 2 to get some numbers
its running with the stock injectors in im gonna change the plugs in the morning and see if i can get it running a lil better im thinking its the 60 lbs injectors the lenght and over all size it the same as my stock .. is it possible the injectors are bad or ?

my neigbors may hate me 4 starting my car a bunch of times i have straight exhaust no cat res or muffler lol[/QUOTE]

it's either the plugs or maybe the 60's the injector pulse width might not be right thats the only thing i could think of my idle was a bit crazy when i first started my car with 60's

if thats the case vince can definitely take care of it .. he fixed me up quick..

however though that is the issue with 60's they tend to be a PITA to tune for because they're pencil style injectors
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 01:33 AM
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Right but remember sentry is having the same issue...he has 42s
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Jn2
Right but remember sentry is having the same issue...he has 42s
refer back in the thread.. he realized it was because his injectors were too short and were dumping fuel onto the intake manifold... so the engine was getting barely any fuel..

LSJ 42lb injectors are the same length as the stock 2.2 injectors
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 01:36 AM
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yea but if it is the injectors would that cause the car to start and rev and the shut off ?
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 01:37 AM
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That sounds like a leak, brake booster ok?
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 01:39 AM
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That sounds like a leak, brake booster ok?
no leaks i cheak 4 vac leaks a bunch of times i went over everything and im pretty much stumped
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BIG-DAVE
yea but if it is the injectors would that cause the car to start and rev and the shut off ?
if the engine isn't getting enough fuel yes .. and being that the size of 32/ 42s is a huge difference between 60s yes it could.. also make sure your tune file is loading correctly I had an issue with that turned out my palm was f'd up so it wasn't loading my boost tune ..

if it's not loading boost tune that could definitely be it the injector setups would be all fucked up so when you start it it just dumps fuel then barely has any

that would explain why when you hole the pedal down it stays on because it's adding more fuel (which is really where it should be at)
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
refer back in the thread.. he realized it was because his injectors were too short and were dumping fuel onto the intake manifold... so the engine was getting barely any fuel..

LSJ 42lb injectors are the same length as the stock 2.2 injectors
That's actually not correct. The 42's are a 1/4" shorter, which was causing my issue. I installed the lsj fuel rail, and might I add it looks mighty sexy. Getting good fuel pressure and everything.

The injectors are in, and I know for sure they're firing. I got good spark, and air isn't an issue. I got a mechanic to look at it today and he told me it was electrical. Something is causing the car to shut off, like the computer is saying, "****, what the hell!" and shutting off.

I'm going to email vince and see if he knows what the deal is. I can just about guarantee you it's not the tune though. I had it running with his tune earlier this week, just really badly because those injectors were dumping fuel. No need to worry there, I'll load the stock tune and try cranking it just to be sure. Like dave said, I can't datalog it because I can't keep it running long enough.
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 01:44 AM
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well he sent me my 1st tuned and i loaded and had the same problem then he email me a different so i car run it with out my 2.4 t/b and i loaded that on the palm device and it said new tuned loaded and still same issuses
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 01:48 AM
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At leaset the ic I sold u is not the problem lol...looks good by the way
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