2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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The higher the boost the more of a chance you are going to blow the motor. I haven't heard of that gasket. I shall look into it.
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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ya man check it out the gasket its from zzp $100 bucks but seems to me like a good investment if i may say. lol but ya im thinking of running between 14 and 16 psi hopefully but nothing more dont want to risk anything!
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 06:09 PM
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It's a phenolic spacer, good investment, I sill disagree on pullies though but w/e, what do I know I oy beat on my car everyday since I boosted it back on 5/1/09, i'm running the f23 on stock clutch still, I push my car hard, sees 16psi countless times a day, he'll I even ran 18unintercooled pounds of boost, raced my car that way too and my engine is still running, still boosting, still whining, haven't noticed a drop of slip from the belt, none at all. But it's up to, I'd rather save he money and get a 3" intake and a ls4 tb...
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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go save your money and buy a 3 inch exhaust that will really help you with a supercharger set up on a 4banger LOL

if you're getting 18lbs of boost on a 2.2 and running the stock clutch with no problems, ever think that there is something wrong and your not really getting any power? What were your times at the track?
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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go save your money and buy a 3 inch exhaust that will really help you with a supercharger set up on a 4banger LOL

if you're getting 18lbs of boost on a 2.2 and running the stock clutch with no problems, ever think that there is something wrong and your not really getting any power? What were your times at the track?

14.50@98mph w/2.3 60' running all season tires, and a slipping clutch. And no one said anything about a 3" exhaust, I said 3" intake :p I put power down, faster than a lsj mod for mod even when I was unintercooled, I have no problem making power, it's getting it thru a slipping clutch that's the problem. Good drivig habits make for a parts lasting longer, I have lasted 7 months with stock cluch, I beat on my car everyday, so I'm doing something right. I am In the middle of bigger and better things though...my cluch will have to wait
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 06:59 PM
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lol ummmm... wow.... you have no issues yet you have a slipping clutch? You beat the **** out of it yet you have good driving habits?

14.5 and 98mph is NOT a good time for 18psi a 2.8 on a 2.2. Better take a look at your set up
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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lol ummmm... wow.... you have no issues yet you have a slipping clutch? You beat the **** out of it yet you have good driving habits?

14.5 and 98mph is NOT a good time for 18psi a 2.8 on a 2.2. Better take a look at your set up
you're an idiot. Now while i dont totally agree with his driing habits and such. I understand what a slipping clutch will do to your times. I guess however you do not. He as no isssues motor or tranny wise. Yes the stock clutch slips. its not mean to handle that. So ur really just digging deep for points to bash his setup because he is defying the sacred cant run more than X psi on stock internals nut hugging ideals some of you guys that have .
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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I'm not arguing with you, or him anymore. He's an idiot, your an idiot, when your cars blow up have fun with that. OP if you want my opinion on things PM cuz apparently most of the people on here have their heads up their ass and anything I say can't possibly be right. Just because I run my motor as safe as I can MUST mean I'm wrong. *insert eye rolley smiley here* rock on with your bad self mr.know it all.
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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I guess you missed the part where ive had every major power adder. Nitrous, Supercharged (running a setup similar to jn2's), and two different turbo setups. I know what im talking about. When i pulled my motor apart after 20 bottles of nitrous, 9 months of being supercharged @16psi, and running a turbo setup @12psi for 2 months, everything in that motor was mint. I beat the **** out of that motor and not one hiccup, only reason it failed was a freak accident that caused my engine to lose oil. Pressure doesnt persay kill the motor. You can continue to run your safe setup. But there are those of us that have tested the limits of this motor and they are well beyond what your belief is. SO, that being said dont pick apart his setup because hes one of us that are pushing these motors hard and testing the limits so we can teach you who think that they are weak what the real breaking point is and how far you can push the stock bottom end. By the way my new setup is a t3/t4 50 trim on 10psi holding strong, so I sir am not the idiot.
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 02:49 AM
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guys lol we dont gotta arugue about everything lol. people just have different interests in wanting the way their motors are. for example jn2 and 07cobaltguy are trying to get the best out of their motors no matter what you guys push for the limits and i totaly respect that. and like rocket he wants plenty of power as much as possible just at a safe pressure. theres nothing wrong between the two really, just look at it at the end of the day... whether your boosting low or boosting big, your still driving a supercharged 2.2 that some people wish could be done already :/ lol im having to wait 2 and a half weekd to get the lsj idler pulley to be shipped in. its taking a while because of the holidays...
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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and by the way for today and tomorrow merry Christmas everyone. and thanks for all of the support. i was thinking of ss sc guages for my car yall think itll work like just plug and play?
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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FWIW i run the 2.7 with stage 2 belt on the LSJ, never slipped once

also i have heard of issues with MRZ crank pulleys as well, i have the MRZ alternator pulley but it makes some noise during decel due to no clutch..no biggie, it sounds cool
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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lsj - meaning you have the 6rib, you wont have issues.

yes the gauges are plug and play as long as you get the right year range. if your car is 06 or older you need the 06 or older gauges, if you have an 07 or higher, you need the 07 or higher gauges. they work regardless, just your trip computer wont work if you don't get the right year range.
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Rocket
I'm not arguing with you, or him anymore. He's an idiot, your an idiot, when your cars blow up have fun with that. OP if you want my opinion on things PM cuz apparently most of the people on here have their heads up their ass and anything I say can't possibly be right. Just because I run my motor as safe as I can MUST mean I'm wrong. *insert eye rolley smiley here* rock on with your bad self mr.know it all.
that's cool you want to waste money running as safe as possible with 6 rib'd pullies, but don't make the OP feel like he HAS to hundreds more ontop of the sc install to make it work right...i ran 18 un-intercooled psi for a month, even raced that way, my engine never blew up, my transmission never went out, my car did not break into a million pieces...it ran, and kept running, when i put a h/e on again i went to running the normal 16psi im suppose to be running, and everything is ok still, handle 16psi like a champ, engine has no knock, all gears in my tranny shifts are smooth and dont require a lot of effort, at WOT my clutch does slip, but its a factory clutch taking loads more trq than it was intended too, although not accurate # bc i dyno'd when was using a 3.0" pulley, but my clutch survived running 220.3wtrq@2.3k rpm for 5 months, and has been running a 2.8 since than with no problems, still slips @WOT, but it will run a 14.5@98 thru a slipping clutch...i fail to see what the problem is...i dont think their is anything wrong with the car parts or the tuning, the only thing hlding me back is the clutch...but im making that the last thing im going to worry about, im building the engine and dropping down to a 2.7" pulley, and i will run this clutch to the ******* ground...i wanna see how much it can really take before it completely takes the **** on me, bc right now, it may slip, but it has been slipping for 7 months, and i can still DD the car fine, during DD it drives like any other car, when i go WOT it will slip, than eventually grab and accelerate.

so to the OP, if you want to get pullies for the others, dont do it bc you he tells you that you have too, do it bc you want too...i can personally say i have had 0 problems with MY car, and other have chimed in about theirs, i know interviewatruins didnt have a problem with his 2.8 on his 2.2, hunterkiller doesnt have a problem, stenguyen doesnt have a problem, none of the le5's do either...

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I guess you missed the part where ive had every major power adder. Nitrous, Supercharged (running a setup similar to jn2's), and two different turbo setups. I know what im talking about. When i pulled my motor apart after 20 bottles of nitrous, 9 months of being supercharged @16psi, and running a turbo setup @12psi for 2 months, everything in that motor was mint. I beat the **** out of that motor and not one hiccup, only reason it failed was a freak accident that caused my engine to lose oil. Pressure doesnt persay kill the motor. You can continue to run your safe setup. But there are those of us that have tested the limits of this motor and they are well beyond what your belief is. SO, that being said dont pick apart his setup because hes one of us that are pushing these motors hard and testing the limits so we can teach you who think that they are weak what the real breaking point is and how far you can push the stock bottom end. By the way my new setup is a t3/t4 50 trim on 10psi holding strong, so I sir am not the idiot.
thanks, i have pushed this engine to the most its gunna make, now im just going to build it, im not doing this bc the engine cant take more, but bc i cant think of any other mod to do that will add a considerable amount of power :p doing forged internals, cams, pnp head, 3 angle valve job, port matched intake manifold, 2.7" pulley, and will be looking at adding a TVS later in the year

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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 02:18 AM
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lol damn thats alot of power for a ls haha but the ecotecs i have seen can take a crapload of abuse! and thanks rocket for the answer on the guages, i could never get a clear answer i have a 2008 so i guess a 2007 dash and up will work ok? and this is a fun project that im just trying to push my mechanical skills on. i definetly am all in for the more power of course but also just for the fun of building it. im trying to get by with this car supercharged for a little while and then hopefully get the ss/tc. my car now will be going to my little brother as a suprise present. but im just going through one thing at a time because school is taking a beating on my account lol. hopefully with all of the Christmas seasons and soon to come birthday that will all help out i was originally thinking of running from 14-16 psi. i do abuse my car from time to time ill admit to that but i also baby it. v-power gas only, fuel filter every 35k miles (only happened once) royal purple synthetic oil, k&n oil filter, pulstar plugs, and total fuel system cleaner every oil change (8k) lol i treat it like its already a ss. lol but yeah and for the comment above ya we know the lsj 2.7 pulleys wont slip, its the fact of using a 5 ribbed belt on the lsj pulleys with a 2.8 blower pulley.
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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What the heat range on those pulsar plugs? U need a heat range 6 or 7, stock is 5...so u may want to fet the bkre7's from ngk, they r 2 steps colder than stock. And a 07 cluster is plug n play to ur 08, I made a how to on this years ago...
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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lol ok thanks good to know on the guage cluster for some reason of all the searches i had done nothing popped up. but ya well i was told the pulstars were not reccommended to run boost by the company but they said that jan 11 there will be pulstar iridiums which made me very interested haha. i love the plugs personally even though they get ripped on alot.
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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ok on the next paycheck im also going to go ahead and order the tune, what are some things to ask for to be on there? so far: 93 octane tune, speedo limiter off, tune for 2.8 pulley, move rev limiter to 6800, tune for cold air, exhaust. is there anything i might be missing? ive heard stuff about the engine management problem in the stock tune and was wondering if that comes off when you tune with trifecta.
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vince will know what you need. Its not his first and not his last.
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ok on the next paycheck im also going to go ahead and order the tune, what are some things to ask for to be on there? so far: 93 octane tune, speedo limiter off, tune for 2.8 pulley, move rev limiter to 6800, tune for cold air, exhaust. is there anything i might be missing? ive heard stuff about the engine management problem in the stock tune and was wondering if that comes off when you tune with trifecta.
he'll need to knpw what size injectors your going with, and if you're using a 1bar or 2.5bar MAP sensor
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 01:21 PM
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well it looks like im going to be using the stock map sensor which i think is the 1 bar? and also 60# injectors
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 02:20 PM
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well it looks like im going to be using the stock map sensor which i think is the 1 bar? and also 60# injectors
42# will be just fine if you didnt buy yet
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 02:25 AM
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i already got the 60# but i was also told that 60 is better for the 2.8 pulley and lower. lol thats why i got them
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 05:59 AM
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i already got the 60# but i was also told that 60 is better for the 2.8 pulley and lower. lol thats why i got them
correct, and they make 60# that are plug and play. Theres really no benefit to the 42#ers besides saving what..? $30?
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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ya only problem is it looks to be that im going to have to do the custom harness for these injectors:/
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