2.4L LE5 Performance Tech 16 valve 171 hp EcoTec with 163 lb-ft of torque

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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 12:38 AM
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ok ok lol i need 2.5 scis and pigtail correct
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 04:37 AM
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ohh ok .. sorry .. lol .. yea the scip is only needed to fill the hole
my SCIP is wired and is my primary MAP sensor...it is just relocated from the SC to the IM

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ok ok lol i need 2.5 scis and pigtail correct
i forgot...whos doing your tuning? if its gonna be Vince, then you dont need a pigtail, and yea, you'll need the SCIP, but its only a 1 bar.

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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 04:41 AM
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We put the map On hazas car on the manifold and plugged the blower whole as it's shown in the build book...so the stock map can go on the blower? And just plug the hole on the manifold?
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 04:54 AM
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We put the map On hazas car on the manifold and plugged the blower whole as it's shown in the build book...so the stock map can go on the blower? And just plug the hole on the manifold?
erm...kinda
you did it the better way, which is how im gonna change mine to, but yea, you can leave it. Since the MAP is only used to determine when to enter PE mode, its fine, though sometimes i get as high as 2psi before PE mode kicks on.
I also need to add hat to my how-to, which I will do in spring
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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erm...kinda
you did it the better way, which is how im gonna change mine to, but yea, you can leave it. Since the MAP is only used to determine when to enter PE mode, its fine, though sometimes i get as high as 2psi before PE mode kicks on.
I also need to add hat to my how-to, which I will do in spring
well i think im gonna talk to wickedss about tuning my car ive already talked to him but havent for awhile
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 10:21 PM
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you do not need the sciap sensor unless you are using it to plug the hole, and that is it. don't need the harness for the sciap either...

you need the lsj map sensor which mounts in the upper left of the IM if you are looking at it from the front, and its pigtail. That's if you are going that route. I think it's the simples way to go.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 11:40 PM
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***UPDATE***

thanks to a friend and a couple of teachers at st. phillips college. The car is reflashed to stock and actually turns on now, and since its getting more air went into stupid mode and is putting in alot of gas. Reason for the theft lock was the ecm and trifectas reflash. Everything on the tune was working but.... the program erased the ecm clean so it had no vin#, id codes(I think), and alot of other crucial info.

So.... I'm gonna buy a lsj map sensor, and pigtail and use HP Tuners to tune the car. One of the teachers is gonna help me tune the car. He also said when I get a smaller pulley, and do other stuff he will help me tune for a 6 pack, and some food lol.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by pjk91
you do not need the sciap sensor unless you are using it to plug the hole, and that is it. don't need the harness for the sciap either...

you need the lsj map sensor which mounts in the upper left of the IM if you are looking at it from the front, and its pigtail. That's if you are going that route. I think it's the simples way to go.
this is only true if you are rescaling the MAP for a 2.5 bar sensor, and Vince does not need you to do this. Therefore it is cheaper and easier to use the SCIP sensor instead of the 2.5bar MAP if your tuning via trifecta.

Basically, there's more than one way to do this
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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oic ok thanks for the help guys
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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you got any pics of the final install? dragonfire or rockstar?
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 01:17 PM
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i think dragonfire is still stuck w/out a car...
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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I would gladly take pics of the car but its locked up at st. phillips college. Hopefully it will be running on monday night maybe tuesday.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:09 PM
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u email vince about ur VIN being wiped out the ECM???? i think u should let him know, the more bugs he works out his stuff the easier it will go for me
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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yeah I told him, he said reason why it did that was due to the ecm losing connection with the tuner. While I was doing the programming I got two errors. He said the tuner might being jacked up, and he might want me to send it back for a new one. Like I said before one of the teachers at school can tune my car with HP Tuners(already credited), but I would need to get the lsj map sensor. If I go that way I'll lose my money from the trifecta tune.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragonsfire12345
yeah I told him, he said reason why it did that was due to the ecm losing connection with the tuner. While I was doing the programming I got two errors. He said the tuner might being jacked up, and he might want me to send it back for a new one. Like I said before one of the teachers at school can tune my car with HP Tuners(already credited), but I would need to get the lsj map sensor. If I go that way I'll lose my money from the trifecta tune.
sorry but thats just dumb lol trey to get trifecta to work it out.. he's willing to fix it .. why waste money if you have money to burn send it my way or rods way lol
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 12:01 AM
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I'm not dumb you booger brain lol..... but yeah we are gonna work it out and see what went wrong.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Dragonsfire12345
I'm not dumb you booger brain lol..... but yeah we are gonna work it out and see what went wrong.
i'm not a booger brain you dumb dumb
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 02:54 AM
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rofl... sent vince log files from the tuner. He is gonna get back with me in the morning and let me know whats up.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Dragonsfire12345
rofl... sent vince log files from the tuner. He is gonna get back with me in the morning and let me know whats up.
good stuff hope you get it worked out.. those damn gt tuners are causigng more ****.. seems like they're getting worn out quicker and quicker lately
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
this is only true if you are rescaling the MAP for a 2.5 bar sensor, and Vince does not need you to do this. Therefore it is cheaper and easier to use the SCIP sensor instead of the 2.5bar MAP if your tuning via trifecta.

Basically, there's more than one way to do this
So the SCIP sensor goes from the SC to the IM and you ditch the stock 1 bar MAP? and if you needed to plug the whole on the SC essentially you would just pick up a 2nd SCIP sensor?
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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ok guys new thing i need to find a tune for cheap any ideas?? sorry for sidebust dragonfire im jus trying to find a tune
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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you guys are making this way too complicated for someone with no knowledge of MAP sensors and boost. For you hunter, you could figure it out but these guys i doubt it
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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So the SCIP sensor goes from the SC to the IM and you ditch the stock 1 bar MAP? and if you needed to plug the whole on the SC essentially you would just pick up a 2nd SCIP sensor?
correct

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you guys are making this way too complicated for someone with no knowledge of MAP sensors and boost. For you hunter, you could figure it out but these guys i doubt it
I'll update the how-to to try n help people out this spring break. I gotta take the blower off then anyway, so ill grab pics of the reinstall

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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 04:07 PM
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u can always send it my way, all I need is a tune
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 04:21 PM
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well i need someone to tune my balt lol any help on prices?
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