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Old 01-13-2008, 11:17 AM
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lol it looks like my car will be done first muahahaha... well hopefully at least in the first one to 2 weeks in February the new motor should be in.
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:37 AM
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lol it looks like my car will be done first muahahaha... well hopefully at least in the first one to 2 weeks in February the new motor should be in.
Hopefully being the operative word, a word we have all used far too frequently.
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that is true, but almost everything is ready to go, just waiting on sleeves now (yeah decided to make the motor even that much stronger for the "just in case")
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:27 PM
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Just tryin to get a hold of John, the guy at Ferrea who was helpin us with valvetrain. I've called almost everyday for the last 2 weeks. A different reason for him not being at the phone every time

Ok today was a very good one. Finally got a hold of John from Ferrea, got all the details squared away with the valvetrain. Talked to a guy from a local dealership and they agreed to sponsor the NB shafts, and sell me the cam gears at cost This leaves head/main studs which I will just pay for!!!!!

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Old 01-19-2008, 01:29 AM
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Now you just need to get the clutch delivered...or did I miss that post.
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Old 01-19-2008, 11:56 AM
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No, they were gonna deliver it, but I told them not to until they increased the pedal pressure. They said it only had 13 lbs of pedal pressure, stock is like 34. So they were doin something to the spring to make it a little more stiff.
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Old 01-26-2008, 11:22 PM
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Latest update. Neutral balance shafts are on back order... Now if you'll excuse me, I have some babies to punch...
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Latest update. Neutral balance shafts are on back order... Now if you'll excuse me, I have some babies to punch...
How did the baby punching go?
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Dude, are you joking? The 08 Cobalt is nothing special dude, they just rated it what it ACTUALLY makes. I wouldn't race you, just because I wouldn't want to embarrass you. Plus those stage kits are gonna blow the **** out of those motors. The stage kit brings it up to 290 hp, the engineer I talked to at SEMA said the pistons are good for 320 hp. You think someone is going to get the stage kit without getting intake/exhaust too? No way. Pop goes the piston

Plus thats 290 to the crank, I'll have more than that to the wheels on pump gas

I'm getting HP Tuners very soon, so if you need a tune, I'd be happy to give you some hope of loosing by less than a bus length LOLOL
you know what. last I heard the SS/sc lsj was rated 205HP at the crank when there were many putting out 218 220WHP and not one was under 205whp. So why would it not be WHP for the SS/TC. plus have you looked at the power band. it is not peaky at all. good luck making that kind of power. at least your SC and it will be easier but I want to see your dyno..

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Hopefully being the operative word, a word we have all used far too frequently.
you got that figured out.....JK well easy to do when going as extreme as you.
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Old 01-27-2008, 02:15 AM
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you know what. last I heard the SS/sc lsj was rated 205HP at the crank when there were many putting out 218 220WHP and not one was under 205whp. So why would it not be WHP for the SS/TC. plus have you looked at the power band. it is not peaky at all. good luck making that kind of power. at least your SC and it will be easier but I want to see your dyno..
Solstice GXPs and Sky redlines are putting down 215-230 stock. They have ~20% drivetrain loss, GM rates the F35 tranny at a 17% loss, so the SS/TC should be making 220-235 whp.
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lol...u ever gonna finish the car
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At this point, I'm gonna say no. Then if it is finished, it'll be a huge surprise, and if its not, it will be expected so there won't be as much disappointment.
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
Solstice GXPs and Sky redlines are putting down 215-230 stock. They have ~20% drivetrain loss, GM rates the F35 tranny at a 17% loss, so the SS/TC should be making 220-235 whp.
how did the LSJ be so efficient I wonder. crazy how they underate HP. but LSJ does 6.2 0-60 and the new TC is supposed to be 5.7. how does 15HP make it 0.5 faster?
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Old 01-27-2008, 03:12 AM
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how did the LSJ be so efficient I wonder. crazy how they underate HP. but LSJ does 6.2 0-60 and the new TC is supposed to be 5.7. how does 15HP make it 0.5 faster?
Insurance my friend. GM under rates it, so the insurance will be cheaper. In the list of the top 10 most expensive insurance cars, the Cobalt SS didn't make it on the list, while the SRT-4 and others did

Also magazines rated it differently, Motor Trend rated it 6.2 to 60 and 14.8 in the 1/4. IIRC Car&Driver rated it 6.0 to 60 and 14.4 in the 1/4. Either way, it will be sad seeing the Cobalt community split into warring factions rather than banding together and raping other cars
Which is why I will not have any part of the battle, I will only race other cars... Plus, it will be a LOOOOONNNNNNGGGGG time before an LNF cobalt will be able to even get close to giving me a worth while race
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so.. let's say i made 205WHP stock.. 205x1.17 should give me my bhp..?
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205/.83=bhp
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huh... so you mean i have 170bhp...? lol....aint possible..

pulls too much for me too have 170hp.. i was half a car behind a stage 1 SRT-4.. :P
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So it looks like it will be finished afterall!
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Id like to see how tis is turning out cam, you ******* disappeared on me.
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
Insurance my friend. GM under rates it, so the insurance will be cheaper. In the list of the top 10 most expensive insurance cars, the Cobalt SS didn't make it on the list, while the SRT-4 and others did

Also magazines rated it differently, Motor Trend rated it 6.2 to 60 and 14.8 in the 1/4. IIRC Car&Driver rated it 6.0 to 60 and 14.4 in the 1/4. Either way, it will be sad seeing the Cobalt community split into warring factions rather than banding together and raping other cars
Which is why I will not have any part of the battle, I will only race other cars... Plus, it will be a LOOOOONNNNNNGGGGG time before an LNF cobalt will be able to even get close to giving me a worth while race
Because of the doubt given buy you that the car will actually do 260 or have more HP then a GMS2 SS/SC then I may not even get one. I was hoping for 310 tq underated and actually be doing that at the wheels. think I getting a bike. I know what they are capable of. I have know Idea what your build will do or any other build using a turbo will do.

A CBR1000RR is just practice practice pracitce and I like low 10's. and I dont mind trailering it to the track. I truly want speed. thats it. and I have owned a bike since I was 8. thanks for making my decision easier.
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huh... so you mean i have 170bhp...? lol....aint possible..

pulls too much for me too have 170hp.. i was half a car behind a stage 1 SRT-4.. :P
Uh, you did the math wrong buddy.
205/.83 is not 170.
205 DIVIDED BY .83 = 246.99 BHP
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yeah i press on the * instead of / XD

Pretty sweet i was making 247bhp and 219tq with intake and small tune :P
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Finally got the ordering info squared away with the valvetrain. Should take 2-3 weeks, for my custom length +1mm titanium intake and exhaust valves, dual valve springs, and titanium retainers. ~$1500 worth of valvetrain for about $800. Still really pricey for me, but its a ridiculous deal!
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
Finally got the ordering info squared away with the valvetrain. Should take 2-3 weeks, for my custom length +1mm titanium intake and exhaust valves, dual valve springs, and titanium retainers. ~$1500 worth of valvetrain for about $800. Still really pricey for me, but its a ridiculous deal!
seems ridiculous that a 1500 valve train became 800? I would say run away fast cause the quality or the material used is not right. Just saying and looking out for your interests. thats all.
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Old 02-01-2008, 12:14 PM
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Ferrea uses the wrong stuff?!?! I've been in contact with a guy at Ferrea since a month or two after I blew it up. He gave me a huge deal on the stuff, its not free like my pistons and clutch were, but its still saving me hundreds of dollars.
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