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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 06black
you'll be disappointed when it doesn't make the power you want...this much i know.

how much power did you tell them you wanted to make? as i said , your shooting for a cam thats more aggressive then a cam used to support 600whp?

why not be smart and realistic with your power goals and aim for power in a usable rpm range?

hey Witt!!!!!!!!



that is all

I'm still right.

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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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People WITHOUT cams talking about what their cars WILL do WHEN they finally install their cams


imo
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by djt81185
People WITHOUT cams talking about what their cars WILL do WHEN they finally install their cams


imo
or *cam*

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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:20 PM
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or *cam*

imo
no talky honda boy





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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Witt
I'm still right.

nooblet
meh, you only thinks you are!!!!

waffles say differently....

Originally Posted by djt81185
People WITHOUT cams talking about what their cars WILL do WHEN they finally install their cams


imo
huh?

what about said people?

no punch line?

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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:32 PM
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**** y0 waffles

Old Feb 20, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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I think its funny that because I said I worked at and engine building shop for a few months, thats all the knowlage I've ever gained. I've been around engines and tuning and racing since I was a baby. My dad and I had a 10 second Nova when I was like 10 years old, then we sold it and built an 11 second Nova after. I've also helped many friends build their engines, and tune. I know my way around an engine quite well.

...However I am still wondering why all the sudden you guys went on attack, I can't think of anything I did to justify a random attack on my build
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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Just tell yourself they are either jealous, scared to, or can't afford too. Then you will feel happy
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by WSFrazier
Just tell yourself they are either jealous, scared to, or can't afford too. Then you will feel happy
I would, but I can't afford it either

I've been rollin on two almost maxed out credit cards for like 4 months now. Funds are dry, I now must regroup and start saving again. This build has cost a lot more than I was hoping (what a surprise).

P.S. Those who think a new grind is the ONLY way to change LSA, read this.

http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te.../photo_04.html

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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
I would, but I can't afford it either

I've been rollin on two almost maxed out credit cards for like 4 months now. Funds are dry, I now must regroup and start saving again. This build has cost a lot more than I was hoping (what a surprise).

P.S. Those who think a new grind is the ONLY way to change LSA, read this.

http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te.../photo_04.html
DUDE just keep building if it works out than it does if not than it dont but it is kinda hard to find updates with everyone on here being an ******* your right
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
I would, but I can't afford it either

I've been rollin on two almost maxed out credit cards for like 4 months now. Funds are dry, I now must regroup and start saving again. This build has cost a lot more than I was hoping (what a surprise).

P.S. Those who think a new grind is the ONLY way to change LSA, read this.

http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te.../photo_04.html
Damn, I don't check your thread for 1 day, and all of a sudden there are a bunch of ******** adding a full page of crap.

As soon as I started reading the last page, I started searching for my cam info. It was funny to see that you posted that site, because that was one of the sites that I have bookmarked as well.

I don't think that these guys realize that, while you are going to start with the stock blower, you aren't gonna stay with that blower for very long. But I don't want to get into that, becaus then you are gonna have more dumbasses saying that isn't going to work either.

Oh well, some people. To me, I honestly think that you won't have any trouble flowing that much air, due to the huge weight reduction of your total rotating mass, and valve train mass. Yes, you will lose a bit of 1500K-2500rpm torque, but that thing is gonna scream above 4K.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 03:50 AM
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Oh well. I mean they were just trying to cause ****, by not making any valid points and just bringing an overall negative attitude to the thread.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 06black
huh?

what about said people?

no punch line?
No punch line needed
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 08:28 AM
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just keep doin what you're doin. As far as I've seen, you are one of like...three people on here that decided to even attempt something this creative. I haven't had the chance (or time) to really read through this thread to see just how much effort and money went into this project but I would like to make mine a rwd car. Only thing is I want to keep it supercharged. Don't be discouraged because this is taking a long time: you're the first on this platform. Keep it up.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
Oh well. I mean they were just trying to cause ****, by not making any valid points and just bringing an overall negative attitude to the thread.
i don't know if this was directed at me or not, but i thought my point was valid of the car loosing a little down low because your going to be running 4* of overlap.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
i don't know if this was directed at me or not, but i thought my point was valid of the car loosing a little down low because your going to be running 4* of overlap.
It was directed towards the trouble makers (Area 47, 06 Black). Your posts at least had a productive tone.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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Cool, was just wondering, i know your spraying and thats going to make it up, but just courious.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
i don't know if this was directed at me or not, but i thought my point was valid of the car loosing a little down low because your going to be running 4* of overlap.
Should be way more than 4 degrees with that duration.

Those cam specs are pretty wicked, if anything its gonna be rough on a hydraulic valvetrain. This is a good setup for a Jesel valvetrain.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 10:37 AM
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Nope i looked at it as far as i can tell only 4* maybe im off though
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
Nope i looked at it as far as i can tell only 4* maybe im off though
Yeah, you would have to be with that much duration at .050" Seat duration is probably non existant.

Cam, any advertised or seat duration numbers by any chance, I'm curious as to what the actual overlap is.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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cam, the reason i popped in here and pissed in your shoes is because i was bored

nothing more. i to feel the crunch on the wallet. dropping a grand in one day does hurt.

i do how ever feel that the overlap is cause for alarm on the low end. dunno thats just me.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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I actually do have advertised duration numbers. I just can't find the spec sheet. I believe it was in the 260's. Also it shouldn't be too hard on the valvetrain, because the valve stems will be longer than stock, so the slop that would normally be there, won't.

Oh, and Area47 I forgive you
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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hell i rarely sell cams for v8's that have that kind of lift!
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
I actually do have advertised duration numbers. I just can't find the spec sheet. I believe it was in the 260's. Also it shouldn't be too hard on the valvetrain, because the valve stems will be longer than stock, so the slop that would normally be there, won't.
Damn, I like that idea.

Just as an fyi, my little 272s have pretty slow ramp but quite a bit of overlap and I see no ill effects so far of using a high overlap cam. However with the slow ramp its probably just enough to give it a little extra scavenging. They are 214 duration at 1mm btw and they pull good until about 7500-7600. At that point I can't tell if it starts to run out of steam from the cams or from the blower being overspun. Its more than likely the cams cause I think Dan was saying something similar with his turbo setup so in your situation you would probably make peak power at 8k and peak torque at 5-6 imo. You couldn't ask for anything better.

Are you going to be using the stock PCM?

With that quick of ramp you run the risk of collapsing a hydraulic lifter was what I meant. JBP sells Bates solid ones that are identical to the hydraulic dimensions and preserve the stock oiling location.

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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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hell i rarely sell cams for v8's that have that kind of lift!
must be looking at some pansy ass cames then, i assume you know the lsk lobe thats pretty popular, most are over .600 lift lol



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