Ok well it may not be back together just yet, but one thing is for sure. Theses gauges I just got in the mail today are effing sexy

 

Did you end up re-sleeving the block?

 

Na, stock sleeves don't fail until 750 hp. I'm not worried about ever making that much.

 

Looks good.

We just finished Dan's the other night. Took a few hours.

After building 4 while in the car, I can say doing Dan's out of the car was FTMFW. Shouldn't take ya too long at this point.

 

is that what the build book says? i keep hearing 450hp, figuring yours are cryoed like mine i figure it will be a bit higher than stock.

 

Back in like 2002 GM tested the limits of the stock ecotec block. The sleeves didn't fail until just over 750 hp.

 

That's what I thought as well... but GM just released the Ecotec Build Book 3rd Edition with this in the back:

 

your looking at the liners for the L61........

 

It doesn't say L61... it just says liners, when they are engine specific, they specify. I assume they mean Sleeves by that.

I'm just point out what everyone has been quoting.

 

Well they are stupid. Look at Pauls car. 411 whp on stock internals (that includes sleeves), 411 whp = 495 hp at the crank.

 

the drag cars don't run the lsj block. they start with the l61. hence that info.

 

I haven't dug into it too much but the LSJ and L61 blocks and liners should be the same afaik aren't they? Both 86mm bore and gen1 L850 lost foam blocks. Am I missing something?

BTW, if you do a little digging the Darton sleeves are actually manufactured under the MID line for even more win.

 

l61 has thinner sleeves.

someone should step in to confirm this

 

Should be easy to confirm with part numbers. When I get home I'll check.

 

tiz true

 

material thickness wont change. however the material will.

91mm cast bore, 5mil sleeve = 86mm bore.

the big-bad GM race engines run L61 blocks from builds start, thus the reason they are replaced so early in.

its a long life material, not a big power sleeve.

the lsj on the other had had to pass warranty and durability cycles at the max GM backed power levels (stg3 on the bottle) this the difference in cylinder heads, sleeves, ect, ect.

cam's correct here, the lsj sleeves are good to far more then people think.

 

thats comforting to know

 

Cameron let's race!

 

I like how just about every person on this site knows my name

I'd win.
My car with no engine/trans and gutted = ~2500 lbs
Your car full weight = ~3400 lbs

Unless you are many times stronger than me, I could easily push my car faster than you could push yours

You do however need to give my a ride in your Stang!!!

 

Why does your title thing say dead in the water?

 

he went fishing and fell out of the fail boat

 

Is that better?

 

I love you.

no homo

 

wow....... that ranks right up there with a full on man orgy

 

I has ninja text in my post.

Don't be hatin.