ADVANCED Performance Modifications For advanced modification topics only.

OFFICIAL Blown 4-banger build updates!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-30-2009, 06:05 PM
  #2226  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
06blackg85ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-22-06
Location: New York
Posts: 15,212
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
Ambient air temp of 140 = Retarded heat
Good fmic in 140 heat = ...read above

They way I'm getting my intercooler (custom made), I may go with an air-water intercooler. A nice large resevior, so when I race or what not I can dump freezing cold water in there and have lower than ambient IAT2.
2 words for you METH INJECTION
I keep forgetting you live on the sun.
06blackg85ss is offline  
Old 01-30-2009, 06:05 PM
  #2227  
Senior Member
 
Darkmanx's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-04-07
Location: FL.. FT LAUDERDALE/MAIMI
Posts: 5,190
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
How do you think I blew the motor? At 150 mph on the highway racing an SRT-4.



God your grammar is horrible... Anywho, yeah I know air-air is good for street, and air-water is better for racing only.

**** it. Summer here kills everything, I'll just run like 5 psi.



I'm throwing around ideas *******
Im talking about the awesome built motor you got.
Darkmanx is offline  
Old 01-30-2009, 06:09 PM
  #2228  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Blown 4-banger's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-03-06
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 7,571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
2 words for you METH INJECTION
I keep forgetting you live on the sun.
Ahem, I live on Mercury... Closest planet to the sun.

Also, I'd rather run 5 psi or go N/A during the summer than use water/meth.

Originally Posted by Darkmanx
Im talking about the awesome built motor you got.
Oh. Yeah, I took it up to 8200 a few times. My friend said it sounded like a dirt bike
Blown 4-banger is offline  
Old 01-30-2009, 06:13 PM
  #2229  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
elecblue06's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-19-07
Location: newburgh,ny
Posts: 14,911
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
ok.. you're stooping to the level to insult peoples grammar? seriously man grow up..

and furthermore.. ok you're throwing ideas out there.. thats fine.. but do some research for yourself.. i'm sure the gurus on here didn't have someone holding their hand every step of the way when they first got into it ...

hell i didn't know **** about 4 cylinders until 2006 when i bought my car .... and though i'm no where near the level some people are on it.. i know a **** load more then a good portion of the people on this board... which is unfortunate considering my general lack of knowledge..

and you know how i learn all of it .. research... emails to companies more research, and more and more research

sorry i'm not trying to be a dick .. but stop looking for more knowledgeable members to hold your hand through your build

learn it yourself or when something goes wrong you'll be SOL... when you dont know anything about your own setup you proper ******* yourself if anything goes wrong


and if by saying you'd rather drop the psi or run NA during the summer then use meth... you clearly need to research meth alot more
elecblue06 is offline  
Old 01-30-2009, 06:20 PM
  #2230  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
06blackg85ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-22-06
Location: New York
Posts: 15,212
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
Ahem, I live on Mercury... Closest planet to the sun.

Also, I'd rather run 5 psi or go N/A during the summer than use water/meth.



Oh. Yeah, I took it up to 8200 a few times. My friend said it sounded like a dirt bike
unfortunately dude the laws of physics don't bow to your wants my man. You will need something whether it be an ice box setup or an intercooler sprayer to even think of maintaining any sort of power with the retarded air temps you deal with.
Water/meth is a damn lifesaver, been in use for years, even used by the air force when they were still using piston driven planes.
06blackg85ss is offline  
Old 01-30-2009, 06:28 PM
  #2231  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Blown 4-banger's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-03-06
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 7,571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by elecblue06
ok.. you're stooping to the level to insult peoples grammar? seriously man grow up..

and furthermore.. ok you're throwing ideas out there.. thats fine.. but do some research for yourself.. i'm sure the gurus on here didn't have someone holding their hand every step of the way when they first got into it ...

hell i didn't know **** about 4 cylinders until 2006 when i bought my car .... and though i'm no where near the level some people are on it.. i know a **** load more then a good portion of the people on this board... which is unfortunate considering my general lack of knowledge..

and you know how i learn all of it .. research... emails to companies more research, and more and more research

sorry i'm not trying to be a dick .. but stop looking for more knowledgeable members to hold your hand through your build

learn it yourself or when something goes wrong you'll be SOL... when you dont know anything about your own setup you proper ******* yourself if anything goes wrong


and if by saying you'd rather drop the psi or run NA during the summer then use meth... you clearly need to research meth alot more
I don't know **** about turbos and stuff like that, there fore I am trying to learn from people who have experience with turbos on Ecotec engines. As for the engine its self, I know plenty. I learned plenty when I assembled my engine in my kitchen.

Also, I always give Bryan **** about his grammar

Paul, like I said earlier, I have accepted the fact that I will just have to tune my car WAY down for the summer months, besides, even at stupidly low boost levels I should still be at like 300 whp.
Blown 4-banger is offline  
Old 01-30-2009, 06:32 PM
  #2232  
Senior Member
 
06black's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-13-05
Location: the glove
Posts: 5,733
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
How do you think I blew the motor? At 150 mph on the highway racing an SRT-4.



God your grammar is horrible... Anywho, yeah I know air-air is good for street, and air-water is better for racing only.

**** it. Summer here kills everything, I'll just run like 5 psi.



I'm throwing around ideas *******
way to change the subject.

toolbox.

Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
I don't know **** about turbos and stuff like that, there fore I am trying to learn from people who have experience with turbos on Ecotec engines. As for the engine its self, I know plenty. I learned plenty when I assembled my engine in my kitchen.

Also, I always give Bryan **** about his grammar


Paul, like I said earlier, I have accepted the fact that I will just have to tune my car WAY down for the summer months, besides, even at stupidly low boost levels I should still be at like 300 whp.
jew rat!

Last edited by 06black; 01-30-2009 at 06:32 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
06black is offline  
Old 01-30-2009, 06:48 PM
  #2233  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
06blackg85ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-22-06
Location: New York
Posts: 15,212
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
lolz.
hell run at low boost if need be man. That's the one thing I love about NY, sea level, doesn't get rediculously hot, and good gas.
06blackg85ss is offline  
Old 01-30-2009, 08:05 PM
  #2234  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Blown 4-banger's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-03-06
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 7,571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
lolz.
hell run at low boost if need be man. That's the one thing I love about NY, sea level, doesn't get rediculously hot, and good gas.
Ah, you know today I was out, in the nice 70 degree weather, with the wind gusting lightly on my t-shirt

Yeah, I'm just gonna run really low boost in the months when the sun descends on the earth

So could a GT-K 550 make 400 whp on 91 octane, in temperatures below the boiling point of water? AKA Any month thats not May through August
Blown 4-banger is offline  
Old 01-30-2009, 08:15 PM
  #2235  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
06blackg85ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-22-06
Location: New York
Posts: 15,212
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
I really don't see why not.
06blackg85ss is offline  
Old 01-30-2009, 08:45 PM
  #2236  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Blown 4-banger's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-03-06
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 7,571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Ok then, that shall be my goal. GT-K 550.
Blown 4-banger is offline  
Old 01-30-2009, 09:04 PM
  #2237  
Senior Member
 
06black's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-13-05
Location: the glove
Posts: 5,733
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
find me a compressor map, then i can say yey or nay.
06black is offline  
Old 01-30-2009, 09:14 PM
  #2238  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Blown 4-banger's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-03-06
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 7,571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Ok, I'll try. That might be kinda tough.
Blown 4-banger is offline  
Old 01-31-2009, 12:17 AM
  #2239  
Senior Member
 
Tomtwtwtw's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-30-06
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 5,491
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
So could a GT-K 550 make 400 whp on 91 octane, in temperatures below the boiling point of water? AKA Any month thats not May through August

I don't see why it wouldn't, when my car with its tiny turbo and zero bolt-ons makes close to 300 in the summer heat. You would be running lower boost at 400 than I am now. Plus you'd have a more efficient i/c set up, better exhaust, cams, head, etc. etc.
Tomtwtwtw is offline  
Old 01-31-2009, 12:34 AM
  #2240  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
06blackg85ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-22-06
Location: New York
Posts: 15,212
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
Ok, I'll try. That might be kinda tough.
go on the turbonetics site, they have the comp maps hidden on there.
06blackg85ss is offline  
Old 01-31-2009, 01:03 AM
  #2241  
Senior Member
 
Witt's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-03-06
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 4,958
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Turbonetics hasn't released the compressor maps for the snake units yet. They did however just release the water cooled ones iirc.
Witt is offline  
Old 01-31-2009, 07:30 AM
  #2242  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
06blackg85ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-22-06
Location: New York
Posts: 15,212
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
yeah I did some searching last night after that post and couldn't find a map anywhere. It's basically an S trim GT35r though. Should be right around the same map.
06blackg85ss is offline  
Old 01-31-2009, 12:52 PM
  #2243  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Blown 4-banger's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-03-06
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 7,571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Would it be anything close to this?

Blown 4-banger is offline  
Old 01-31-2009, 01:02 PM
  #2244  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
06blackg85ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-22-06
Location: New York
Posts: 15,212
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
it's more towards the hp61 wheel I think.
06blackg85ss is offline  
Old 01-31-2009, 05:13 PM
  #2245  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Blown 4-banger's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-03-06
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 7,571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Oh well, I'm going with GT-K 550. If it doesn't make 400 whp on 91 octane, I'm gonna be pissed, but with 9.5:1 compression, and some Q16 it should make over 500 whp, so I'm happy.
Blown 4-banger is offline  
Old 01-31-2009, 06:31 PM
  #2246  
Banned
 
FASTL61's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-17-08
Location: QC,AZ
Posts: 4,217
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
titz
FASTL61 is offline  
Old 02-01-2009, 01:39 PM
  #2247  
Senior Member
 
djt81185's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-19-05
Location: Horseheads, NY
Posts: 3,018
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just cause I didn't throw this in when you came to the realization that you needed a turbo to make the power you want.

I TOLD YOU SO...

anyway. dude...you seem to have the idea that the latest and greatest/and/or custom is the only way to make power. You need to sit down, run the numbers, and be ******* realistic. Seriously. Nobody really gives a **** with custom this and custom that. Get the stuff that works and is suited for your REALISTIC end goals.

And if you don't know how to run the numbers, learn how to.
djt81185 is offline  
Old 02-01-2009, 02:13 PM
  #2248  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Blown 4-banger's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-03-06
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 7,571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by djt81185
Just cause I didn't throw this in when you came to the realization that you needed a turbo to make the power you want.

I TOLD YOU SO...

anyway. dude...you seem to have the idea that the latest and greatest/and/or custom is the only way to make power. You need to sit down, run the numbers, and be ******* realistic. Seriously. Nobody really gives a **** with custom this and custom that. Get the stuff that works and is suited for your REALISTIC end goals.

And if you don't know how to run the numbers, learn how to.
Well, my goals are to make the most power possible with 91 octane and no meth, and get peak boost at a reasonable RPM. I can guarantee that's not gonna happen with a ******* mass produced log manifold, and a hacked up supercharger housing. Which would merit the idea of a custom/ready made sheet metal intake, and CUSTOM exhaust manifold. How bout you let me do my build how I want, and butt out. Sound good, Mr. Used Holset turbo that doesn't spool til 90,000 rpm?
Awesome
Blown 4-banger is offline  
Old 02-01-2009, 03:53 PM
  #2249  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
elecblue06's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-19-07
Location: newburgh,ny
Posts: 14,911
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
Well, my goals are to make the most power possible with 91 octane and no meth, and get peak boost at a reasonable RPM. I can guarantee that's not gonna happen with a ******* mass produced log manifold, and a hacked up supercharger housing. Which would merit the idea of a custom/ready made sheet metal intake, and CUSTOM exhaust manifold. How bout you let me do my build how I want, and butt out. Sound good, Mr. Used Holset turbo that doesn't spool til 90,000 rpm?
Awesome
*sigh**... his used holset turbo that doesn't spool till 90k rpm will probably stop on your car even after you're at your "optimal" setup
elecblue06 is offline  
Old 02-01-2009, 03:57 PM
  #2250  
Banned
 
Mr.MISSMATCH's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-21-08
Location: jerz
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by elecblue06
*sigh**... his used holset turbo that doesn't spool till 90k rpm will probably stop on your car even after you're at your "optimal" setup
doesnt spool till 90,000 rpm?
Mr.MISSMATCH is offline  


Quick Reply: OFFICIAL Blown 4-banger build updates!



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:13 PM.