OFFICIAL Blown 4-banger build updates!
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Well, my goals are to make the most power possible with 91 octane and no meth, and get peak boost at a reasonable RPM. I can guarantee that's not gonna happen with a ******* mass produced log manifold, and a hacked up supercharger housing. Which would merit the idea of a custom/ready made sheet metal intake, and CUSTOM exhaust manifold. How bout you let me do my build how I want, and butt out. Sound good, Mr. Used Holset turbo that doesn't spool til 90,000 rpm?
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All this thread shows is how you obviously know nothing about modifying cars, and how ******* stupid you are.
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Well, my goals are to make the most power possible with 91 octane and no meth, and get peak boost at a reasonable RPM. I can guarantee that's not gonna happen with a ******* mass produced log manifold, and a hacked up supercharger housing. Which would merit the idea of a custom/ready made sheet metal intake, and CUSTOM exhaust manifold. How bout you let me do my build how I want, and butt out. Sound good, Mr. Used Holset turbo that doesn't spool til 90,000 rpm?
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If you didnt want insight, or opinions on your build, why bother making a thread?
All this talk of your first build and it was a let down, and now u try to talk trash for someone trying to give you insight and advice on how to build ****? This thread is about as fail as your last build.
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Well this thread was made more for updates, not ignorant bickering. So go ahead and keep trashing my build, I honestly could care less what anyone thinks about my build. If you think I'm an idiot and my build will fail, great, you stated your opinion, now GTFO. I'm going to post UPDATES from now on. I can't believe I let my thread (which has been up for almost 2 years now) turn into this childish **** storm, it makes me sick that people can't do something to their car without a pack of ******** bashing it, and saying it will fail and how they should sell the car. If dan was trying to provide "insight" he needs lessons on how to not seem like an arrogant *******.
Good Day to you gentlemen. May whatever projects your working on, succeed.
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Well, my goals are to make the most power possible with 91 octane and no meth, and get peak boost at a reasonable RPM. I can guarantee that's not gonna happen with a ******* mass produced log manifold, and a hacked up supercharger housing. Which would merit the idea of a custom/ready made sheet metal intake, and CUSTOM exhaust manifold. How bout you let me do my build how I want, and butt out. Sound good, Mr. Used Holset turbo that doesn't spool til 90,000 rpm?
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A vulcan equal length exh manifold will suit you fine. As will their production intake mani.
Well this thread was made more for updates, not ignorant bickering. So go ahead and keep trashing my build, I honestly could care less what anyone thinks about my build. If you think I'm an idiot and my build will fail, great, you stated your opinion, now GTFO. I'm going to post UPDATES from now on. I can't believe I let my thread (which has been up for almost 2 years now) turn into this childish **** storm, it makes me sick that people can't do something to their car without a pack of ******** bashing it, and saying it will fail and how they should sell the car. If dan was trying to provide "insight" he needs lessons on how to not seem like an arrogant *******.
Good Day to you gentlemen. May whatever projects your working on, succeed.
Good Day to you gentlemen. May whatever projects your working on, succeed.
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IIRC, didn't we all say your cams/build would fail? Just another newb on .net that thinks anyone can build a motor, and it failed just like everyone else's on here.
After that, you would of that to maybe take our advice, but instead you just want to throw it back in their faces.
Who's cars are running?
Who's cars are making power?
After that, you would of that to maybe take our advice, but instead you just want to throw it back in their faces.
Who's cars are running?
Who's cars are making power?
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Awesome, thanks for your input 
P.S. My cams/build is fine. It collapsed a lifter, a simple fix with solid lifters. I am also going to use the vulcan intake manifold, but I am using an exhaust manifold like the one Bryan is using, so it will have to be custom. I am far from a newb when it comes to motors, it makes me laugh just seeing you post that. I AM a newb when it comes to turbocharging, thus why I have been asking Paul and Bryan for help. You guys never said anything about my valvetrain btw.
Now please, I want this thread to go dormant until I have an update (a useful post). If you don't like what I'm doing with my car, then stop looking at my thread and STFU.
P.S. My cams/build is fine. It collapsed a lifter, a simple fix with solid lifters. I am also going to use the vulcan intake manifold, but I am using an exhaust manifold like the one Bryan is using, so it will have to be custom. I am far from a newb when it comes to motors, it makes me laugh just seeing you post that. I AM a newb when it comes to turbocharging, thus why I have been asking Paul and Bryan for help. You guys never said anything about my valvetrain btw.
Now please, I want this thread to go dormant until I have an update (a useful post). If you don't like what I'm doing with my car, then stop looking at my thread and STFU.
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You know if Canada invades the US, Michigan will be one of the first to fall. I'd be friendly with Canadians 
I don't know how much they retail for, but I got a REALLY good deal on mine.
I don't know how much they retail for, but I got a REALLY good deal on mine.
lol wut eve yo. lol. that **** wont happen. how good of a deal?
u got these http://www.jbodyperformance.com/new/...catName=JP0711
u got these http://www.jbodyperformance.com/new/...catName=JP0711
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Those arent the solid lifters I'll be ordering. Are they adjustable? The ones we got a line on are. Ewww JBP just imo.
Bryans design is extremely nice but so is the vulcan equal length paul has now.
Bryans design is extremely nice but so is the vulcan equal length paul has now.
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I was thinking about going with that one, but just like Bryan said, with his manifold, its a straight shot to the exhaust, where as Pauls has to do a loop-d-loop to get to the exhaust. Its fine, I know a lot of people who make custom tubular headers, it won't be a problem.
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Not possible my friend. A turbo simply can not go from unspooled to fully spooled "instantly". Its physically impossible, and I know your exagurating, because the turbo M3 I tuned was stroked to 3.2L and had a TINY turbo, and even that hitting it at 4000 rpm full boost was there a fraction of a second after my foot hit the floor, then it was gone by 5500 rpm. Either way, after riding in my friends Evo X with intake, and seeing him floor it at like 2600 rpm and get like 2 psi and just sit there slowly building boost, that was the final nail in the coffin for me EVER getting a turbo. **** that ****. Turbos are too transient, they either have lag in the extreme low end, or die off in the top end. Superchargers, are there at all rpms and don't die in the top end. Yeah they draw power to work.... so does an A/C compressor, people don't bitch about that! Either way, turbos definitely have their place, I love turbos... on the right car. Also, I can not condone putting a turbo on a car called Cobalt SS SUPERCHARGED. If it was an N/A car (more than 2.5L) I would probably actually put a turbo on it instead of a supercharger. Only if it wasn't my daily driver.
However this is a thread about my build. My build meaning my car, how I'm building, and progress. So if your trying to turn this into a turbo vs. sc thread, GTFO and do it elsewhere
Also don't say I'm under educated, because I've done much more research on turbo dynamics, sizing, theory, and other misc turbo bullshit, than you think.
However this is a thread about my build. My build meaning my car, how I'm building, and progress. So if your trying to turn this into a turbo vs. sc thread, GTFO and do it elsewhere
Also don't say I'm under educated, because I've done much more research on turbo dynamics, sizing, theory, and other misc turbo bullshit, than you think.I was thinking about going with that one, but just like Bryan said, with his manifold, its a straight shot to the exhaust, where as Pauls has to do a loop-d-loop to get to the exhaust. Its fine, I know a lot of people who make custom tubular headers, it won't be a problem.
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so I just skimmed through reading about every 5-10 pages of this whole thread. Is the car running right now? Is it tuned? Are you/have you been racing it?
I know you are going turbo, but damn, this thread seems to be full of nothing but fail.
I know you are going turbo, but damn, this thread seems to be full of nothing but fail.
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7deg=1ft
90/7=~13 ft.
says the guy who/s over cooled LSJ still popped.
90/7=~13 ft.
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