so.. i need boost, help me!!!
half the **** you mentioned is a simple fix, like the washer fluid thing? MOVE IT, CUT A LONGER HOSE... if the ss.sc has it on the left, i bet money where you guys have it mounted, i have the mounting holes for it too,
maf sensor can be moved around, no biggie, its there and it'll work with minor modification, once again no biggie,
you will need new injectors, but i already listed that, and the install wont be as difficult as the tuning, no problem, i got a tuner, as far as the belts lining up, i doubt its a problem, but its something to look into, and im sure when he mentioned 5 hours, it was for tuning, not the install,
i've no clue on how the stock ss/sc intercooler/heat exchanger works, but thats something im trying to figure out
maf sensor can be moved around, no biggie, its there and it'll work with minor modification, once again no biggie,
you will need new injectors, but i already listed that, and the install wont be as difficult as the tuning, no problem, i got a tuner, as far as the belts lining up, i doubt its a problem, but its something to look into, and im sure when he mentioned 5 hours, it was for tuning, not the install,
i've no clue on how the stock ss/sc intercooler/heat exchanger works, but thats something im trying to figure out
You will need new injectors along with all of the other parts I stated (and more). Believe me, we looked into this last summer/fall. And when I say "looked into this" I mean we had parts for test fitment and mock-up. And before you get smart with me chief, I never said you can't fix the problems that I mentioned. I simply mentioned them in response to TCarter's claim that it was a simple 5 hour install requiring 3 parts.
Maybe you should do a little more research (and reading of posts) before you try to act like the expert on the subject when you're talking to someone that spent a few months researching it along with a GM engineer.
dude, frist off, you're right on the 5 hr thing, i did read it wrong, my mistake,
second, i never said im an expert, if i was i would have never signed up on this forum, i would have never made this thread and instead of me asking questions i would have signed up on this site just to show everyone what numbers i put down
but no, im no expert and just like everyone else out here, we're all gaining knowledge by asking questions and trying new things,
the other thread you are talking about, yea i read it, and it just stopped, like a year ago, no updates, just a dead end, like hitting a brick wall, there was no test results, no fittings mentioned, and there was pretty much nothing really done about it, so yea i started this thread.
maybe if the other thread had continued up to a point where everything was written in stone, there would be no need for this thread. so until then, let keep it simple,
IM NO EXPERT, thats why i pay the experts,
IM NOT TRYING TO BE A DICK, im just telling it how it is
IM NOT HATING, im learning too
and thats great that you and whoever gm techies tried to figure it out, half the techies around here that work for gm are idiots and i mean idiots, i wouldnt trust my car with more than a handfull of them, unless ofcourse they were the ones that designed the power train, then i'll shut up about it.
and i dunno if you read my 1st post, where did i agree on anything saying i only need 3 parts, maybe you should read a lil more two,
senior out
second, i never said im an expert, if i was i would have never signed up on this forum, i would have never made this thread and instead of me asking questions i would have signed up on this site just to show everyone what numbers i put down
but no, im no expert and just like everyone else out here, we're all gaining knowledge by asking questions and trying new things,
the other thread you are talking about, yea i read it, and it just stopped, like a year ago, no updates, just a dead end, like hitting a brick wall, there was no test results, no fittings mentioned, and there was pretty much nothing really done about it, so yea i started this thread.
maybe if the other thread had continued up to a point where everything was written in stone, there would be no need for this thread. so until then, let keep it simple,
IM NO EXPERT, thats why i pay the experts,
IM NOT TRYING TO BE A DICK, im just telling it how it is
IM NOT HATING, im learning too
and thats great that you and whoever gm techies tried to figure it out, half the techies around here that work for gm are idiots and i mean idiots, i wouldnt trust my car with more than a handfull of them, unless ofcourse they were the ones that designed the power train, then i'll shut up about it.
and i dunno if you read my 1st post, where did i agree on anything saying i only need 3 parts, maybe you should read a lil more two,
senior out
I did read it. Did you read mine? Cause I didn't say you thought you only needed 3 parts. My first post was directed towards TCarter and TCarter alone.
You need
lsj intake manifold
lsj heat exchanger pump and bracket
some sort of heat exchanger and lines to route it
heat exchanger mounting supplies
(for simplicity id recommend the ENTIRE lsj aftercooler system since ur car already has teh gap for the heat exchanger core...the stock lines should fit along with stock pump mounting locations)
lsj s/c
lsj TB or custom larger TB i'll be releasing shortly
entire lsj belt setup...unless u can find a correct size 5 rib double sided belt if not get ENTIRE lsj system...a 2.2 eco i know has the lsj s/c on it and he is using entire belt system
wire to reroute the maf
atleast stock lsj or stage 2 lsj injectors
the new injector harness to make it work
hptuners
lsj windshield washer fluid resivoir or remove stock one and relocate
lsj CAI
that should be it...id recommend a lsj map sensor tho as well
lsj intake manifold
lsj heat exchanger pump and bracket
some sort of heat exchanger and lines to route it
heat exchanger mounting supplies
(for simplicity id recommend the ENTIRE lsj aftercooler system since ur car already has teh gap for the heat exchanger core...the stock lines should fit along with stock pump mounting locations)
lsj s/c
lsj TB or custom larger TB i'll be releasing shortly
entire lsj belt setup...unless u can find a correct size 5 rib double sided belt if not get ENTIRE lsj system...a 2.2 eco i know has the lsj s/c on it and he is using entire belt system
wire to reroute the maf
atleast stock lsj or stage 2 lsj injectors
the new injector harness to make it work
hptuners
lsj windshield washer fluid resivoir or remove stock one and relocate
lsj CAI
that should be it...id recommend a lsj map sensor tho as well
i have actually, but how did you get $3000 for 300hp? cuz i was looking into it, plus now that their doing the gay wholesaler thing, i dunno if i could even go to them directly, i was already looking into their stage 2/3 head with the cams,.
id rather spend 3 on an na or supercharger build than $6000 on a turbo
id rather spend 3 on an na or supercharger build than $6000 on a turbo
i have actually, but how did you get $3000 for 300hp? cuz i was looking into it, plus now that their doing the gay wholesaler thing, i dunno if i could even go to them directly, i was already looking into their stage 2/3 head with the cams,.
id rather spend 3 on an na or supercharger build than $6000 on a turbo
id rather spend 3 on an na or supercharger build than $6000 on a turbo
are you taking about their stage 2 heads?
i dunno if that alone will yeild 300hp, maybe the stage 2+cams
or stage3+cams
all estimates right now anywayas they dont have any proof of gains
i dunno if that alone will yeild 300hp, maybe the stage 2+cams
or stage3+cams
all estimates right now anywayas they dont have any proof of gains
go to their site and check out the engine section, the rebuild and replace alot of stuff,its more than just a head job.I will be goin this route and have a badass NA
its very simple to put a roots style supercharger on a 2.4, all you need is the intake mani, the supercharger, and an adapter plate...
given the resources, and you know what your doing, you can have it installed, and ready to be tuned in about 5 hours.
TNT Autosport will be developing a roots style kit, with help from TurboBlackBalt(now: AMG Passion) when our shop is opened.
given the resources, and you know what your doing, you can have it installed, and ready to be tuned in about 5 hours.
TNT Autosport will be developing a roots style kit, with help from TurboBlackBalt(now: AMG Passion) when our shop is opened.
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GM PART # 17800003
CATEGORY: All
PACK QTY: 1
CORE CHARGE: $0.00
GM LIST: $3,388.00
OUR PRICE: $3,058.42
DESCRIPTION: Ecotec 2.2L Cavalier/Sunfire Supercharger Kit
For 03-05 2.2L Ecotec powered Chevrolet Cavaliers and Pontiac Sunfires. This kit upgrades power to 200hp (up from stock 145hp). Kit includes a supercharger, all necessary hardware, brackets, gaskets, and specific E.O. performance engine calibration. Premium fuel required.
ok guys, i'm stil looking into this as an option, now dont get scared, im not going to buy this lol, just trying to find more info, ive been reading that the m62 on the 2.2 cavi's dont need an intercooler??? is this possible??
anyone?
same wwith the s/c they made for the 2.4 ld9???
you mean ALL pulley's ?? i know there are 2 more pulleys on an ss/sc besides the blower, tensioner and i forget the otherone right now its late, so you mean i'd need the other ones too if mines not 5 rib?
GM PART # 17800003
CATEGORY: All
PACK QTY: 1
CORE CHARGE: $0.00
GM LIST: $3,388.00
OUR PRICE: $3,058.42
DESCRIPTION: Ecotec 2.2L Cavalier/Sunfire Supercharger Kit
For 03-05 2.2L Ecotec powered Chevrolet Cavaliers and Pontiac Sunfires. This kit upgrades power to 200hp (up from stock 145hp). Kit includes a supercharger, all necessary hardware, brackets, gaskets, and specific E.O. performance engine calibration. Premium fuel required.
ok guys, i'm stil looking into this as an option, now dont get scared, im not going to buy this lol, just trying to find more info, ive been reading that the m62 on the 2.2 cavi's dont need an intercooler??? is this possible??
anyone?
same wwith the s/c they made for the 2.4 ld9???
you mean ALL pulley's ?? i know there are 2 more pulleys on an ss/sc besides the blower, tensioner and i forget the otherone right now its late, so you mean i'd need the other ones too if mines not 5 rib?
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GM PART # 17800003
CATEGORY: All
PACK QTY: 1
CORE CHARGE: $0.00
GM LIST: $3,388.00
OUR PRICE: $3,058.42
DESCRIPTION: Ecotec 2.2L Cavalier/Sunfire Supercharger Kit
For 03-05 2.2L Ecotec powered Chevrolet Cavaliers and Pontiac Sunfires. This kit upgrades power to 200hp (up from stock 145hp). Kit includes a supercharger, all necessary hardware, brackets, gaskets, and specific E.O. performance engine calibration. Premium fuel required.
ok guys, i'm stil looking into this as an option, now dont get scared, im not going to buy this lol, just trying to find more info, ive been reading that the m62 on the 2.2 cavi's dont need an intercooler??? is this possible??
anyone?
same wwith the s/c they made for the 2.4 ld9???
you mean ALL pulley's ?? i know there are 2 more pulleys on an ss/sc besides the blower, tensioner and i forget the otherone right now its late, so you mean i'd need the other ones too if mines not 5 rib?
GM PART # 17800003
CATEGORY: All
PACK QTY: 1
CORE CHARGE: $0.00
GM LIST: $3,388.00
OUR PRICE: $3,058.42
DESCRIPTION: Ecotec 2.2L Cavalier/Sunfire Supercharger Kit
For 03-05 2.2L Ecotec powered Chevrolet Cavaliers and Pontiac Sunfires. This kit upgrades power to 200hp (up from stock 145hp). Kit includes a supercharger, all necessary hardware, brackets, gaskets, and specific E.O. performance engine calibration. Premium fuel required.
ok guys, i'm stil looking into this as an option, now dont get scared, im not going to buy this lol, just trying to find more info, ive been reading that the m62 on the 2.2 cavi's dont need an intercooler??? is this possible??
anyone?
same wwith the s/c they made for the 2.4 ld9???
you mean ALL pulley's ?? i know there are 2 more pulleys on an ss/sc besides the blower, tensioner and i forget the otherone right now its late, so you mean i'd need the other ones too if mines not 5 rib?
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