Calgary - random talk thread
hello fellow calgarians. figured i would see if there is interest for this here
i know most of you probably do not like katy perry, but maybe a girlfriend or sister wants to go to the concert.
I bought 2 tickets when they went on sale because my girlfriend wanted to go. now she has a new job and can not book time off for it. they tickets in the area i bought them for are going for 200 ish on kijiji. However i am into them for like 140 (IIRC). Since i respect this community i would sell them for what i paid.
If anyone is interested or knows someone who would be interested or can spread the word for me that would be great. Id rather deal on here then strangers on kijiji.
Thanks all!
i know most of you probably do not like katy perry, but maybe a girlfriend or sister wants to go to the concert.
I bought 2 tickets when they went on sale because my girlfriend wanted to go. now she has a new job and can not book time off for it. they tickets in the area i bought them for are going for 200 ish on kijiji. However i am into them for like 140 (IIRC). Since i respect this community i would sell them for what i paid.
If anyone is interested or knows someone who would be interested or can spread the word for me that would be great. Id rather deal on here then strangers on kijiji.
Thanks all!
Four pages!?
I have to scroll/read through four pages of your posts since last evening @ 4:30!
generally, there should be cast into the backside of the rotors "hub", a "min" width measurement;
you would need to use a caliper to verify how thick the rotors are;
this assumes even rotor wear btw.
hey thanks for the invite!
Joel, you have that slightly backwards;
Both will actually hurt your off idle power, but generally speaking,the shorty will give you more lower rev power, while the long tube would seem to make the lower end seem a bit soft, but give you more up top;
Think of it this way;
The shorty keeps the theoretical restriction point closer to the engine, while the long tube moves it further (this is a generalization becasue normally a header will grossly outflow the exhaust system it's attached to);
You need a degree of restriction, otherwise the air will stall out;
The restriction creates backpressure, and in turn necesitates airflow;
Since the shorty header is shorter, it has less CFM capacity, and will "fill up" quicker, where as the long tube header has a much greater CFM capacity, and will take longer to "fill"...
Hopefully that makes sense.
In regards to which is better with turbo, this is entirely dependent on the configuration, and turbo's intended location;
Generally turbos are kept closer to the exhaust port top aid in quicker spooling - the further it sits from the exhaust port, generally means the longer it takes to spool up...
As pointed out, generally a remote mount turbo negates the need for any cooling, as the air has a chance to cool on route back to the engine.
That one should make sense.
happy long-weekend-friday!!
I have to scroll/read through four pages of your posts since last evening @ 4:30!
you would need to use a caliper to verify how thick the rotors are;
this assumes even rotor wear btw.
@Mark I'm having a small dinner for Ella on Tuesday. Cake food etc... you are more then welcome to come as I have Khloe, and I'm sure Ella would like to see her. I also don't live far. You are more then welcome to come to her birthday on June 4th, and Jonathan you are too even tho you have not really met Ella. Khloe will be there. So will STEVE! and JON if they know whas good for them 
Both will actually hurt your off idle power, but generally speaking,the shorty will give you more lower rev power, while the long tube would seem to make the lower end seem a bit soft, but give you more up top;
Think of it this way;
The shorty keeps the theoretical restriction point closer to the engine, while the long tube moves it further (this is a generalization becasue normally a header will grossly outflow the exhaust system it's attached to);
You need a degree of restriction, otherwise the air will stall out;
The restriction creates backpressure, and in turn necesitates airflow;
Since the shorty header is shorter, it has less CFM capacity, and will "fill up" quicker, where as the long tube header has a much greater CFM capacity, and will take longer to "fill"...
Hopefully that makes sense.
In regards to which is better with turbo, this is entirely dependent on the configuration, and turbo's intended location;
Generally turbos are kept closer to the exhaust port top aid in quicker spooling - the further it sits from the exhaust port, generally means the longer it takes to spool up...
As pointed out, generally a remote mount turbo negates the need for any cooling, as the air has a chance to cool on route back to the engine.
That one should make sense.
happy long-weekend-friday!!
Last edited by soundjunky; May 20, 2011 at 12:25 PM.
Hmmm everyone seems to have it backwards. I thought it was short down low, long tube up high and then I found a thread on it and the guy asked if short is down low, and 3/4 of the people said it was up high
When you have a larger diameter exhaust (and a header of one type or another essentially equates to a larger exhaust right off the port), this makes it so that your exhaust will theoretically outflow your engine up to a specified RPM;
Once your engine makes more exhaust for a given period of time than your exhaust can flow, you've reached the point of restriction;
Once you've reached this point, your engine will not be able to make much more power - generally this is where the power band starts diving off....
Keep in mind I'm leaving out many other factors that tie in - but I'm trying to tell this in a simple fashion that should make it understandable...
Jordan, you can trust me, I have no reason to give you bad advice.
But hey, it's your call... just don't say I told you so if you end up with an exhaust that kills the bottom end power that your car's engine was designed for

If you want, I could actually show you some stuff so you can see for yourself what works...
Ah ha. I thought the long tubes were better for the upper power band. All the racing headers are like ultra long for corvettes and stuff. Soundjunky is definitely correct.
im stuck at home without my car
at least its at the sop right now getting my summers on. i might do a tranny flush when i get it back. i dont think the fluid has ever been changed. also i need an oil change lol
I'm working as per usual,
and what you guys are saying is owning what I've learned about headers
I was under the impression that the lengths of the primaries were chosen for the RPM band of the engine, and you could "rock" the torque band higher and lower with longer and shorter primaries. Lower RPM was long and higher RPM was short. This of course coupled with the diameter of the primaries dictates a lot too.
Also, long tubes have the advantage of being able to scavenge while the shorty's cant. Which is more of a big deal for N/A engines rather than SC/TC.
Joel
and what you guys are saying is owning what I've learned about headers
I was under the impression that the lengths of the primaries were chosen for the RPM band of the engine, and you could "rock" the torque band higher and lower with longer and shorter primaries. Lower RPM was long and higher RPM was short. This of course coupled with the diameter of the primaries dictates a lot too.
Also, long tubes have the advantage of being able to scavenge while the shorty's cant. Which is more of a big deal for N/A engines rather than SC/TC.
Joel
BAM! Travis your vote put her on the first page. Thats where we would like her to stay.
Oh lame! Well text away when you fix it lol
Oh lame! Well text away when you fix it lol
Last edited by Baltbitch; May 20, 2011 at 04:00 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost


