FINALLY an option for us f35 guys. READ!
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No, but non MRs with the 5 speed are good to 500+whp. Also shep can build transmissions for the evos for reasonable prices(who do we have? ZZP? Thats it...as well as our current built trans available for our cars won't support much more than 500wtq and even at levels at or around 400wtq can be ticking time bombs) and there's a few local fab/performance shops to me(within 40 miles) that fab up turbo systems for all dsms as well as tune them and have made some for customers in excess of 700whp on just pump gas and meth. Oh yeah, and not to mention DSMs can rev past 9 grand. I'm still stuck at 7400rpms and will be there for a while so it seems. The only other chevy I would get is a Z06 C5 or a base C6. The camaros are pigs and not worth my time. Great looking car but way too heavy for their size.
No, but non MRs with the 5 speed are good to 500+whp. Also shep can build transmissions for the evos for reasonable prices(who do we have? ZZP? Thats it...as well as our current built trans available for our cars won't support much more than 500wtq and even at levels at or around 400wtq can be ticking time bombs) and there's a few local fab/performance shops to me(within 40 miles) that fab up turbo systems for all dsms as well as tune them and have made some for customers in excess of 700whp on just pump gas and meth. Oh yeah, and not to mention DSMs can rev past 9 grand. I'm still stuck at 7400rpms and will be there for a while so it seems. The only other chevy I would get is a Z06 C5 or a base C6. The camaros are pigs and not worth my time. Great looking car but way too heavy for their size.
and hell my car I was running close to 10krpm
9500 rpm turbo cobalt - YouTube skip to 55 sec
1st pull was 8600 2nd was 9600 3rd was only 8800 max of 17.2psi (was a newly built motor).
and I'm the local tuner around here lol, I've had a hand in pretty much every cobalt around me, well at least back in the day. I also build and do my own turbo setups and advise others on their builds so people at least around here aren't out on their own. It just pisses me off that I invested so much time and money into this platform for people to mod em like riced out honda's. I agree there is a limit to how much whp you should be running on a street fwd, but hell 500+whp is fun as hell lol. and on straight pump gas I've gotten to 500whp with no meth, it's just takes many many hours of tuning to get it right.
I"m a chevy die hard, I won't even get into the list of the cars I've had, but it's up around 30 chevy's alone. I really hoped chevy would kill the compact scene with the cobalt, but it's really not happening. and btw my other car is a 98 trans am in the middle of a 5.3liter 88mm turbo build, which I'm hoping to get some time to finish it before the winter.
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I agree, but not with the stock 5spd, maybe on the street, but at the track they ain't lasting long, same with the transfer case. (I have my fair share of evo buddies in excess of 500-600whp).
and hell my car I was running close to 10krpm
9500 rpm turbo cobalt - YouTube skip to 55 sec
1st pull was 8600 2nd was 9600 3rd was only 8800 max of 17.2psi (was a newly built motor).
and I'm the local tuner around here lol, I've had a hand in pretty much every cobalt around me, well at least back in the day. I also build and do my own turbo setups and advise others on their builds so people at least around here aren't out on their own. It just pisses me off that I invested so much time and money into this platform for people to mod em like riced out honda's. I agree there is a limit to how much whp you should be running on a street fwd, but hell 500+whp is fun as hell lol. and on straight pump gas I've gotten to 500whp with no meth, it's just takes many many hours of tuning to get it right.
I"m a chevy die hard, I won't even get into the list of the cars I've had, but it's up around 30 chevy's alone. I really hoped chevy would kill the compact scene with the cobalt, but it's really not happening. and btw my other car is a 98 trans am in the middle of a 5.3liter 88mm turbo build, which I'm hoping to get some time to finish it before the winter.
and hell my car I was running close to 10krpm
9500 rpm turbo cobalt - YouTube skip to 55 sec
1st pull was 8600 2nd was 9600 3rd was only 8800 max of 17.2psi (was a newly built motor).
and I'm the local tuner around here lol, I've had a hand in pretty much every cobalt around me, well at least back in the day. I also build and do my own turbo setups and advise others on their builds so people at least around here aren't out on their own. It just pisses me off that I invested so much time and money into this platform for people to mod em like riced out honda's. I agree there is a limit to how much whp you should be running on a street fwd, but hell 500+whp is fun as hell lol. and on straight pump gas I've gotten to 500whp with no meth, it's just takes many many hours of tuning to get it right.
I"m a chevy die hard, I won't even get into the list of the cars I've had, but it's up around 30 chevy's alone. I really hoped chevy would kill the compact scene with the cobalt, but it's really not happening. and btw my other car is a 98 trans am in the middle of a 5.3liter 88mm turbo build, which I'm hoping to get some time to finish it before the winter.
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My understanding is that the larger size doesn't fit into the delta subframe without massive fabrication.
Sad the SS never really took off, but I guess thats what you expect when they only make 3 years of this car. I wish Chevy had made the transmission just as strong as the motor, but you guys are expecting to get racecar status out of a Sporty economy car. 500whp is insane with FWD, but to each his own.
Sad the SS never really took off, but I guess thats what you expect when they only make 3 years of this car. I wish Chevy had made the transmission just as strong as the motor, but you guys are expecting to get racecar status out of a Sporty economy car. 500whp is insane with FWD, but to each his own.
True, I was more or less talking about the transmission. I don't understand people buying big turbo kits then throwing it on the motor without thinking about the transmission. it just wasn't made for that kind of power and we dont have any companies making transmissions specifically for our car like DSM/EVo's, but they have been out for what, 20 years? no wonder they have a huge backing.
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I agree, but what disappoints me is breaking things every 2 weekends and the car hasn't seen drag radials yet. Its built right, tuned by someone who is known as a great tuner, and yet I see cars with identical setups holding up but things keep failing. Everything engine wise on the car is new. I would go with a larger turbo but my powerband is then limited and short due to very little aftermarket support. Just about any other car has more of an aftermarket. We need someone dedicated to the fueling and standalone support for the LNFs. Even the LSJs could use standalone for a few things but there is very little support for us. I would love to find a standalone system that would actually be able to communicate with our bcm. If there were standalone I wouldn't have a bit of issue revving higher. Hell, if Vince would get off his ass and work more on expanding our vvt tables in the ecm the lnf wouldn't need a standalone system. I could attempt to dig into my spare ecm and try to unlock tables but tbh I have no experience with GM ECMs and Vince wrote his own tuning program for the GM Cars. There is no reason he couldn't write a reflash which expands the vvt tables. Hell, even a table which adjusted the voltage sent to the solenoids at a certain rpm would be better than nothing and could be adjusted in small increments to get the achieved timing advances by logging.
I hear ya man, hell there still isn't a good plug and play standalone for the lsj's and they've been around since 04 (redlines). Msd was going to do something, but nothing ever happened
Finally ready to put a trans in my ride.
Im putting the one John Powell built that is Cryo treated and keeping my new ZZP for backup. Thanks to John for the Quick turn around and Thanks to ZZP for honoring the warranty on the other transmission.
Im putting the one John Powell built that is Cryo treated and keeping my new ZZP for backup. Thanks to John for the Quick turn around and Thanks to ZZP for honoring the warranty on the other transmission.
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From: Tejas
I'm serious though. Getting things cryoed would probably be the next step up beyond the 4.45 conversion before things start really going up in cost.
i have a lsj tranny with a broken bell housing... im wondering if the bell housings are interchangeable on these things im sure they are but i just wanna hear it from someone to reassure myself???
Well as many people that have been reporting issues, I'd imagine there are some broken spares laying around that people would be willing to donate since it's probably just taking up space now. The problem is probably how much it's worth versus how much it is to ship it.
I'm serious though. Getting things cryoed would probably be the next step up beyond the 4.45 conversion before things start really going up in cost.
I'm serious though. Getting things cryoed would probably be the next step up beyond the 4.45 conversion before things start really going up in cost.
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