I would be down if they are proven in the racing world. I dont live far from shep trans and would love to put one in my car to give it hell at the strip. Longer first gear, slightly shorter second, shorter third and shorter or the same forth would be great. Also keep the stock or a bigger overdrive for fifth.

 

Yes i know but i don't think they are stong enough and the price is through the roof lol..

 

[SIZE="2"]I would be happy to give him the guts out of a trans I took apart with a broken case and or one of my spares[SIZE="2"]

 

Ariel Atom

 

Yes, they require a core. I'm not sure about the before or after part. Check their website.

Yes, they usually offer options like that. Check their website.

Yes, it is an ideal time to upgrade the clutch since you already have the trans removed. The clutch isn't part of, or connected to, the transmission though... all you would need to do, is order one, and install it. The Pressure Plate/Clutch/Flywheel assembly attaches to the Crank... not the transmission.

You're a bunch of idiots.

How would you know how strong they are?

The price is quite high though.

Zing!

 

I wonder if they would put in the 4.45 ring and pinion if we supplied it.

 

dont see why not

 

I think it could be a from both, and solving one or the other could keep the trans from having issues. More than likely, the shep option would be more reliable; however, there has been some serious power put down through a few braced stock F35s. Doing both would probably be the best bet for those DD'ing big power...

X2...

 

interested

 

He also said something about a final drive option down the road. The ratio changes, however, I don't know if we will have any say in which way they will be going. I think it all has to do with the pitch he chooses to run for the most holding power and how that corresponds with the ratios we have now. This is directly from shep yesterday.

"It would not be a drastic change without changing all of the ratios which again adds to the cost significantly.

I suggest just staying close to stock and maybe in the future we can offer a final drive change."

"A longer first gear will be very expensive to make due to the input shaft being part of 1st gear. Anything is possible but they will need to be willing to pay. The taller final is common because it keeps the same rpm drop and lengthens every gear. I think we are getting way ahead of ourselves as far as that goes though. I am first concerned with getting the quotes and getting commitments for the 3rd and 4th first."


[QUOTE=Edubs;5777862]I think it could be a from both, and solving one or the other could keep the trans from having issues. More than likely, the shep option would be more reliable; however, there has been some serious power put down through a few braced stock F35s. Doing both would probably be the best bet for those DD'ing big power...

This option will be plenty for the big power dd. There isn't enough info out there on case bracing and personally I would listen to john as I have brought that exact issue to him over the phone.

 

I think we should just leave it till he gets his hands on a trans to review. I just brought it up because it is worth noting that this trans has been pushed well past 500WHP with just bracing and no issues...

...to simply dismiss it because the Mitsubishi community said the same thing about a completely different trans is not a good idea.

 

excited

 

OP can you keep all the updated information on the first post?

 

If they researched to brace the case it would be an easy add on, and should only add a couple hundred bucks to it. I would pay for that as well as the upgraded gears.

 

terry11 it would be nice to have a longer first gear, but not needed totally, I can rev to 8000rpms which should give me around 45mph prolly. I guess we just wait and see what they can provide us.

 

Exactly what I was getting at...

 

sub'd for gear slammin'

 

...it was my understanding that the final drive on our transmissions was actually set by the Input and Output shaft Diameters. I could be wrong, but I thought I remember reading that from a VERY reliable source. Meaing there are 4.05 gear sets and there are 4.45 gear sets, along with whatever the LNF is. 3.83, 3.73... whatever it is. I'm pretty certain of that actually. I'll see if I can find the thread where he was talking about it.

Exactly. The case flexing was an obvious issue with the LSJ, which is why they updated the LNF with a thicker trans case. Further bracing is obviously needed.

 

Like john said, if someone is willing to pay anything is possible, but being that 1st gear is a part of the input shaft it would be very expensive. Right now he just wants to fix our main issue, not get ahead of ourselves, and get a good rep going for himself in our community. I know we're going to have a hard time getting guys to buy... thats just a fact

 

So your saying you want him to research it and possibly offer this as an option?

 

Well to be honest I'm not gonna throw out a bunch of money for a stronger factory trans, then have to turn around, pull my trans out again to have a longer 1st gear put in.

I understand what John is saying, but from a consumer point of view, I don't want to have to keep pulling my trans out, shipping it and put it back in everytime something new becomes available that I want for my transmission.

IMO, its better to have those options right from the get go, get them out of the way, install and enjoy.

 

ya but those will be options that very few of the people get here considering the price difference. Id be thrilled if he came out with a stock tranny that could positively hold the power we all easily make.... at the cheapest price point. Remember they have to sell to the masses, not the unique.

 

Shepard Racing didn't have that problem with selling DSM trans upgrades in Stages, most people I knew opted for the stage 2, not stage 1 rebuild. Stage 3 was reserved for the hardcore enthusiast.

A DSM stage 1 is basically what we will get (if that) minus options.

If you guys want a stronger rebuilt stock trans why not go with ZZP's?

 

There is nothing wrong with going zzp, I back them 110%. But when we are talking the difference between a 100% stock tranny with a couple modifications compaired to what shep will offer with new stronger gears themselves and that is what he does on a daily basis. Also he will be able to get things to us cheaper because he prolly already has all the metal paid for just has to get it cut.

 

That wasn't the goal at all at the beginning of this at all. Changing gear ratios was never discussed we are just aiming to fix a huge issue for us right now. The ratios are only going to be changed to accommodate for the different pitch. It will be very slight and barely noticeable

You can e-mail him if you feel that strongly about this but you have to put yourself in his shoes and remember he's not going to spend tons of money out of his pocket for an option that you and maybe 2 other people will ever buy. There are other ways of getting around our "short" first gear.