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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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and i'm telling you that your full of **** and you pulled the wrong fuse if all that other **** went out... its basic wiring its in no way shape or form attached to that other stuff.
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 05:35 PM
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the cheapo ebay kits have to be connected to the batterys, nice name brands dont have to, and will not loose their color over time either.
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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There should be a way to disable the drls so they don't make your HID's flicker... on my car there's a drl power wire that goes to BCM, that wire is cut or connected to another light source to fool BCM into thinking drl's are on.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 10:13 AM
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Is this kit in this link the same one used in this install? It seems to be. The kid who bought it didn't know the Cobalt had a battery terminal up front.. lol. So I got it off of him instead..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...=#ht_500wt_885
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by knoxbox
and i'm telling you that your full of **** and you pulled the wrong fuse if all that other **** went out... its basic wiring its in no way shape or form attached to that other stuff.
Your a ******* idiot. Since when is our cars basic wiring? Do you even know anything about electrical engineering? The DRL fuse wasn't introduced until the 07 model, you have an 08 which means...gasp...you have one. But guess what, see that '2005' in my signature?

Your wrong. Get over it or drive into oncoming traffic you ignorant ****
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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mine didnt come with a relay box, what do i do?
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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Don't worry about it. Mine didn't come with one either.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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Don't worry about it. Mine didn't come with one either.
hmm. i have the plug and play all set up, but i dont think the ballast is getting power. any help?

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here are my pictures




whhaa??? which wire do i connect to my battery terminal? my HIDs are weird... the ballast only has the red and black wire running out of it. and the bulb connectors?

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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 05:56 AM
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If you get a good kit you shouldnt have to run anything to the battery terminal
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 07:10 AM
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Yeah, mine had no run to the battery.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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i figgered it out. nvm
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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If you get a good kit you shouldnt have to run anything to the battery terminal
Actually the good kits come with a relay, which is powered directly from the battery. Using the stock wiring is dangerous and isn't as efficient as being powered from the battery post directly.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Xavipheus
Actually the good kits come with a relay, which is powered directly from the battery. Using the stock wiring is dangerous and isn't as efficient as being powered from the battery post directly.
Actually, HIDs use less power than stock bulbs, so technically they could be considered safer than stock lights.

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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MP81
Actually, HIDs use less power than stock bulbs, so technically they could be considered safer than stock lights.
Not entirely true, HID's use more INITIAL amperage when they are first turned on then halogens...once the gas is heated up, it uses less... but it's nearly impossible for a short to happen in that short of a period.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 08:58 PM
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It's not sustained for a long enough time to build much heat. The stock wiring is quite up to the task, though...or it should be.
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MP81
It's not sustained for a long enough time to build much heat. The stock wiring is quite up to the task, though...or it should be.
it is not for a long time but it does draw about triple the power of a halogen lamp. a relay is always a good idea to take that load off... so you dont run the risk of frying something..(which are always expensive to replace)
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 04:42 AM
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The main concern is the initial starting of the HID ballasts. Igniting the HID bulb can send a huge amount of current through the wiring.

Another reason to use the battery fed relay harness is to prevent the issue of flickering. It ensures that the ballasts get the power it needs. In some cars, the headlight wiring will fail to provide enough current to the ballasts, which causes the HID to flicker (Shuts off, then turns on, and then shuts back off, back on...). This flicker is not only dangerous if you're driving in poor lighting conditions, but it also shortens the life of your HID ballasts and bulbs.
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Xavipheus
Actually the good kits come with a relay, which is powered directly from the battery. Using the stock wiring is dangerous and isn't as efficient as being powered from the battery post directly.
actually name brands like mccullough and phillips dont come with relays and theyre damn good brands.
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
actually name brands like mccullough and phillips dont come with relays and theyre damn good brands.
Okay either way, there's no cons or risk in tapping the battery straight as opposed too using stock wiring. Dont be lazy and do it half assed, why take the risk?
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
actually name brands like mccullough and phillips dont come with relays and theyre damn good brands.
to my knowledge, philips (dont know about mccullough but im sure its similar) doesnt make hid kits at all. they make ballasts and bulbs and other companies put those parts together and sell them as a kit. so whether or not to include relay is up to those companies

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Okay either way, there's no cons or risk in tapping the battery straight as opposed too using stock wiring. Dont be lazy and do it half assed, why take the risk?
i dont think anyone should argue with this

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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 07:43 AM
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its not being lazy or half assed if thats what the kit comes with and your installing everything in the kit is it? didnt think so
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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its not being lazy or half assed if thats what the kit comes with and your installing everything in the kit is it? didnt think so
Your an idiot. Just because the kit doesn't come with something does not make the part any less important. I bought a cheap HID kit on ebay and when it didn't come with a relay I didn't just wire it up so that it would 'just work'. I spent the extra $10 and bought the relay kit. But whatever, be ignorant and do what you want. I'm just trying to help you, but hey it's your car, do you think I care?
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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The relay kit ain't gonna do anything differently.

Either way works JUST FINE.
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Xavipheus
Your an idiot. Just because the kit doesn't come with something does not make the part any less important. I bought a cheap HID kit on ebay and when it didn't come with a relay I didn't just wire it up so that it would 'just work'. I spent the extra $10 and bought the relay kit. But whatever, be ignorant and do what you want. I'm just trying to help you, but hey it's your car, do you think I care?
you must care if you keep responding to and quoting my previous posts. its my car ill do whatever suits my needs with it, and your car is your pile of crap, and i could give two ***** if you drive it into a wall at 100mph and it catches on fire and your trapped inside. whatever gets you thru life.
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 07:11 AM
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I paid $160 for my kit, and it was a very nice kit. It didn't come with a relay (but other kits, i.e. for a Trailblazer, which cost the same from the same vendor came with one), which to me, means I don't need one. They work just fine...it all depends on the kit.
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