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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 09:34 AM
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i would return the favor since you helped me with my brakes, but i have no idea what i could do lol.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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Any coming today? I'll be in my hhr.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 10:08 AM
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if we are still talking about the one in canton, ill go
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 03:28 PM
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I also got the people in that caravan to confirm that they saw you Drew.

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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 03:38 PM
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haha yeah... i read all the ones relating, thanks for telling them it was an SS even tho it really isnt.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 03:39 PM
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Excited for your new exhaust Drew?
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 03:44 PM
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haha yeah... i read all the ones relating, thanks for telling them it was an SS even tho it really isnt.
oh....oops.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 03:48 PM
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It's a 2.4 SS. It's just not a boosted SS.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 03:52 PM
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its an SS because of the wheels, all power options, bigger engine, body,... ability to take 93 octane... etc. its a huge step over base models and 2.2s... but its not forced induction.

my idea of a true SS is the forced induction.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 03:57 PM
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Ok so i wasn't wrong.

STOP CONFUSING ME!

I'm confused enough as it is.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 03:59 PM
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wellllll techinallyyy... in 06 the 2.4s had SS badges, but in 08 it was made a black sheep and called the Sport. which is what i have. a wimpy sport badge i placed on the center piece of the grill.

while we are talking about my car, does anyone know a good tuner for me? im getting that over axle pipe soon and after that and the muffler goes in, the shift plus and springs should follow suit, but i would like to know of a local tuner....
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 05:14 PM
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Should get some more mods before you start tuning. You won't see many returns for an exhaust and intake.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 05:45 PM
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alright. then ill get a header. and then idk, cause i didnt think that far into mods. i just wanted a tune to just be done with my car for a while lol
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 05:52 PM
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Bigger injectors, header, DP, exhaust, intake, maybe some new spark plugs and maybe even get the larger 2.4 intake manifold. You should get a little over 200 with all of that, if not more.

And with the DP, I can probably have my brother weld in a 2.5in section at the 02 sensor, since it pinches down to 2in there.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Lifter
Bigger injectors, header, DP, exhaust, intake, maybe some new spark plugs and maybe even get the larger 2.4 intake manifold. You should get a little over 200 with all of that, if not more.

And with the DP, I can probably have my brother weld in a 2.5in section at the 02 sensor, since it pinches down to 2in there.
i asked josh about the injectors... i dont know what they do, so idk what getting bigger ones will do...
are you talking about the extruded honed manifold from gm?
ugh downpipe.
ugh exhaust.
my SRI is fine.
maybe spark plugs.
lol after this over axle/muffler combo, gonna figure out where to go from there.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 08:48 PM
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If you want more power you need three basic things.

more fuel
more air
and earlier spark advance.

If you are doing mods to reduce airflow restriction (intake, exhaust, headwork, etc.) you are basically trying to get more air into the engine.
Well that wont do you any good unless you add more fuel to match it.

I'm guessing that the stock injectors on an NA cobalt dont have much margin for injecting more fuel than they do now. So I'm guessing they are nearly maxed out.

Basically you might need bigger injectors to keep up with the additional airflow.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty25RS
If you want more power you need three basic things.

more fuel
more air
and earlier spark advance.

If you are doing mods to reduce airflow restriction (intake, exhaust, headwork, etc.) you are basically trying to get more air into the engine.
Well that wont do you any good unless you add more fuel to match it.

I'm guessing that the stock injectors on an NA cobalt dont have much margin for injecting more fuel than they do now. So I'm guessing they are nearly maxed out.

Basically you might need bigger injectors to keep up with the additional airflow.
so spark plugs, and injectors are next? isnt a tune needed for bigger injectors?
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 09:30 PM
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A tune is definitely needed for bigger injectors.

As far as spark plugs go, I'm assuming you are replacing them because the current ones are old and need replaced?

You wont get more spark advance by putting in different plugs. Getting more spark advance is achieved via tuning.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 09:32 PM
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And I wasn't tlaking about your air intake; I'm talking about the plastic intake manifold that your air intake is connected to. There's a high-flow GMPP intake you can get that's 2.2/2.4 compatible. It'll increase airflow, so with new injectors you'll benefit more because fo increase airflow.

Or you could just supercharge it
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 09:46 PM
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right thats what im thinking, isntt it the steel extruded honed manifold the one we are talking about?
jeeesus, then id have to get the injectors, like last lol, no i wont need the spark plugs they should be fine...
alright then. so header/dp combo is next.
at the rate im going, i dont wanna try supercharged, im already squeezing funds.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 09:53 PM
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lol the honed manifold is the header. I am fairly certain there is another manifold you can get, but it's the intake manifold.

Header/DP will help with a new exhaust. Especially one with a high flow cat.

Get a higher flowing intake manifold with your air intake, and get the next step up in injectors and you should be able to tune and get some better results from it.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 09:56 PM
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so this: Cobalt & Ion ---> ZZ Performance
and this: BAD-MAB.com
the gmpp honed manifold will have clearance issues on an automatic...
then injectors... THEN tune.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 10:00 PM
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If you are sequencing out your mods injectors should be parallel to the tune on a gantt chart.

DO NOT drive the car with the new injectors untill its tuned.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 10:08 PM
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haha yes sorry, thats what i mean, injectors AND tune. guess i wont be done before the spring c-bus meet :'(
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 11:46 PM
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Just bought some Anzo's, other wise I'd get your Projectors =(.

In other news...


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