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Quality of parts isnt necessarily determined by country of origin.
True, you can get junk from the US and quality from China too, but usually when companies are looking for the lowest possible price, they import from countries like China, Taiwan, Mexico, etc.
True, you can get junk from the US and quality from China too, but usually when companies are looking for the lowest possible price, they import from countries like China, Taiwan, Mexico, etc.
as long as it works well, i couldn't care less where it comes from.
the main difference is QC. you can make the same parts anywhere, but the good parts require QC. if you leave it up to a supplier in china, your QC is likely to be crap.
The ZZP IC is a china core with LNF endtanks. thats why its so cheap lol
there are only a few manufacturers of intercooler cores for the aftermarket. it honestly doesnt matter if its an ebay intercooler or a big name huge dollar piece, the cores are more than likely made side by side.
Originally Posted by exninja
as long as it works well, i couldn't care less where it comes from.
the main difference is QC. you can make the same parts anywhere, but the good parts require QC. if you leave it up to a supplier in china, your QC is likely to be crap.
i read a very in depth article a while ago about a guy that was hypothetically going to start his own mountain bike company, and he showed what it took to get your own frames made (thats all mountain bike companies do thats their own, the rest of the components are all from major parts companies). they went to china with another a small company bike builder and toured the factory and talked with them about what it takes. to get a decent product from a chinese factory it takes putting one of your own people in thatc factory to do QC at every step of the build. the factory needs a babysitter to tell them whats good and whats not, and that avoids getting a container full of bent frames and terrible welds.
anyone with a design can get a product made in china, as long as you have the money and a connection, and you dont even have to leave your desk. however if you want a good product you gotta go to china and put in the work. your product is only as good as the quality control.
He would drive down from Canada land to either north or south carolina it was one of those two states i believe he said and they would rent the tunnel for the day thats how he would test many parts for the Corvettes
[QUOTE=Sharkey;7676328]there are only a few manufacturers of intercooler cores for the aftermarket. it honestly doesnt matter if its an ebay intercooler or a big name huge dollar piece, the cores are more than likely made side by side.
Yep. its why I hate buying expensive Inter coolers unless I know its a Spearco or Garret core.
there are only a few manufacturers of intercooler cores for the aftermarket. it honestly doesnt matter if its an ebay intercooler or a big name huge dollar piece, the cores are more than likely made side by side.
Yep. its why I hate buying expensive Inter coolers unless I know its a Spearco or Garret core.
Treadstone has decent cores for the price. Much better fin density than ebay ones.
He would drive down from Canada land to either north or south carolina it was one of those two states i believe he said and they would rent the tunnel for the day thats how he would test many parts for the Corvettes
I have been to GM's wind tunnel and the operational cost of that is unbelievable. for just an hour.
as long as it works well, i couldn't care less where it comes from.
the main difference is QC. you can make the same parts anywhere, but the good parts require QC. if you leave it up to a supplier in china, your QC is likely to be crap.
I have many Asian suppliers that I worked with. I have had numerous items CNC'd abroad. I did all my own CAD work in Alibre for aluminum parts and would get the machining done there. Those items turned out well.
I have had thousands of WiFi radios produced there that were hit and miss, Antennas were hit and miss. Pretty much anything electronic you had to stand on top of them or they would **** you where ever they could. It takes a liaison to monitor the QC almost daily.
My two stroke fuel injection kits almost broke me before they started to come out correct.
My worse experience was Electroluminescent dash lenses for my Scoots. I went through dozens of revisions before getting something that was correct.
I have many Asian suppliers that I worked with. I have had numerous items CNC'd abroad. I did all my own CAD work in Alibre for aluminum parts and would get the machining done there. Those items turned out well.
I have had thousands of WiFi radios produced there that were hit and miss, Antennas were hit and miss. Pretty much anything electronic you had to stand on top of them or they would **** you where ever they could. It takes a liaison to monitor the QC almost daily.
My two stroke fuel injection kits almost broke me before they started to come out correct.
My worse experience was Electroluminescent dash lenses for my Scoots. I went through dozens of revisions before getting something that was correct.
Machine CNC lathed, right? Damn good work.
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I have been to GM's wind tunnel and the operational cost of that is unbelievable. for just an hour.
When I was at his house he was telling me alot of things, this was one of them at the time. I remember the cost was ridiculous. That was when we were talking about how much time and money went into R&Ding a product for other companies just to rip you off.
One of the time attack cobalts was at his house which he had a hand in making many parts for. A work of beauty was an understatement. Thing was incredible.
I have many Asian suppliers that I worked with. I have had numerous items CNC'd abroad. I did all my own CAD work in Alibre for aluminum parts and would get the machining done there. Those items turned out well.
Lack of touch-labor means less to control. Once you get the program right, there's not much to go wrong.
If the part is alloy-critical, that becomes another story. I don't trust Chinese alloys further than I can throw them. Just another step to control. Granted, I work in defense contracting so there's usually no option to get alloys abroad, but that's a personal opinion.
Looks like you've learned quite a bit working with Asian suppliers
When I was at his house he was telling me alot of things, this was one of them at the time. I remember the cost was ridiculous. That was when we were talking about how much time and money went into R&Ding a product for other companies just to rip you off.
One of the time attack cobalts was at his house which he had a hand in making many parts for. A work of beauty was an understatement. Thing was incredible.
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Originally Posted by HGT
Received a shipping number....
The product was shipped before I you posted this. It was ordered mid day 1-31-18 and shipped 2-2-18. Checking your email before posting would have saved me some trouble. Your phone call that came in on 2-2-18 at 4:40 wasn't returned that day because it was end of day and didn't get checked.
Here is the tracking link showing it was shipped a day before you posted.
Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
Wow thats not good. Hopefully Josh can chime in and provide his side of the story. This is the second or third thread with similar content this week about OTTP
I did a search. This is the only one I found....
Originally Posted by Slowbalt2000
Yep its getting ignored when theres an issue that did it for me.
You weren't ignored. Your turbo manifold cracked and I said send it back so I can fix it, you never did. I even responded to you on labor day weekend and on labor day.....
Last edited by Josh@ottperformance; Feb 11, 2018 at 08:36 AM.
Well since you started it... this has nothing to do with my exhaust manifold, although the welds on it failed quite obviously. I bought my wastegate and BOV from you and your website states that they come with the flanges. When they arrived to me, there were no flanges in the box, but the cutout in the foam was there for it...strange. Messaged you about it and no response, typical. Not to mention the multiple times I scheduled to meet and pick up my turbo kit but when i called the day of to confirm, you were MIA. Again, I wasnt going to say anything since this was about 2 years ago now.
Well since you started it... this has nothing to do with my exhaust manifold, although the welds on it failed quite obviously. I bought my wastegate and BOV from you and your website states that they come with the flanges. When they arrived to me, there were no flanges in the box, but the cutout in the foam was there for it...strange. Messaged you about it and no response, typical. Not to mention the multiple times I scheduled to meet and pick up my turbo kit but when i called the day of to confirm, you were MIA. Again, I wasnt going to say anything since this was about 2 years ago now.
I assumed it was for the turbo manifold crack. The old order you are talking about had a turbo mani and dump tube with it, when you get a wastegate with them the flanges are used on those. If you didn't get the bov flange that's on me, it could be that I quoted it without one or that you weren't given it. My memory isn't that good.
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