Feeler- Solid Front and Rear Strut Mounts.
I bet those ground control guys do one for scions isnt that a californication kinda car? well they only have one for a Mr. Two isnt the scion a toyota car deal
http://www.ground-control-store.com/...ory.php/CA=194
I lied the ground control thing is 399 for a pair of them:
http://www.ground-control-store.com/...gory.php/CA=88
I am told that caster is improved by cutting away part of the scuttle and ovalizing the strut tower hole and shoving that top mount waaaay back....so i have read on the internet....
http://www.ground-control-store.com/...ory.php/CA=194
I lied the ground control thing is 399 for a pair of them:
http://www.ground-control-store.com/...gory.php/CA=88
I am told that caster is improved by cutting away part of the scuttle and ovalizing the strut tower hole and shoving that top mount waaaay back....so i have read on the internet....
I wasnt sure my self, but that is the first thing that came to mind LOL. Right way to do it or not, it would get you more - (negative) caster (by going back)...
Here the easy way to remember it, caster is the measurement of the steering axis' inclination on a longitudinal plane as viewed from perpendicular to the vehicle centerline, if the caster is negative, then the steering axis will intersect the ground plane at a point behind where the vehicles hub centerline intersects the ground plane. okay so thats not the easy way.
Positive=good good caster=leaning back.
Oh. I C. I know. I was being facetious
Positive=good good caster=leaning back.
Oh. I C. I know. I was being facetious
Last edited by Maven; Dec 4, 2008 at 10:41 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Here the easy way to remember it, caster is the measurement of the steering axis' inclination on a longitudinal plane as viewed from perpendicular to the vehicle centerline, if the caster is negative, then the steering axis will intersect the ground plane at a point behind where the vehicles hub centerline intersects the ground plane. okay so thats not the easy way.
Positive=good good caster=leaning back.
Oh. I C. I know. I was being facetious
Positive=good good caster=leaning back.
Oh. I C. I know. I was being facetious
maven is extremely knowledgeabl if you didnt know that then i dont know what of his you have been reading...
he is more than extremely knowledgable lol i know him from a diff forum and this is the first time i seen that side of him LOL... crazy... good to know tho. i know who i'll be pm'n if i have questions on something haha.
because your car is a ricer and the struts are in the middle of the engine bay unsupported, you could grind away reposition, use the stock top mount of course, and then are you ready FIT A STRUT TOWER BAR triangulated to the firewall and you would be kewl and it would do some good and cover up the dremel marks...
and as for Maven ****n you I failed math so =good= fall over backwards i understand...thanks
but a triangulated strut bar does sound good...atleast it would look more functional than the **** bars out for my car....
ok...thought you were thinkin he was another guy dicking around on here...
Last edited by laserblue2006; Dec 4, 2008 at 10:54 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
my struts are all the way at the back...on the firewall...they are actually under the windshield wiper cowl which is why you arent getting pictures tonight because it was too cold....
but a triangulated strut bar does sound good...atleast it would look more functional than the **** bars out for my car....
ok...thought you were thinkin he was another guy dicking around on here...
but a triangulated strut bar does sound good...atleast it would look more functional than the **** bars out for my car....
ok...thought you were thinkin he was another guy dicking around on here...
nope thats not like me at all... i was just shocked cause i never seen that side of him before i knew he knew his **** but i mean dayum haha.
my struts are all the way at the back...on the firewall...they are actually under the windshield wiper cowl which is why you arent getting pictures tonight because it was too cold....
but a triangulated strut bar does sound good...atleast it would look more functional than the **** bars out for my car....
ok...thought you were thinkin he was another guy dicking around on here...
but a triangulated strut bar does sound good...atleast it would look more functional than the **** bars out for my car....
ok...thought you were thinkin he was another guy dicking around on here...
I dont know what happened to my thread. It kind of got off topic just a bit. The mounts that you showed are camber adjustable. I was not going for this. I was going for a very simple design that would eliminate the rubber stock bushings. I am pretty sure I expressed exactly what you were looking for, not sure why the comments kept coming.
Would you be more interested if I just got rid of the poly bushings and inserted the spherical bearings? If thats all that you would rather prefer thats very easy to do, just makes them more expensive.
Would you be more interested if I just got rid of the poly bushings and inserted the spherical bearings? If thats all that you would rather prefer thats very easy to do, just makes them more expensive.
Last edited by dohc v6; Dec 5, 2008 at 09:21 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
First longevity. It would last about 5x longer than the stock rubber bushings. I have noticed that when people lower there car on the older sunfires and cavaliers, the rubber just cant hadle it. So thats one thing. The other thing, being that they are 90% solid. Its along the same principals of why change your factory motor mount thats rubber to a poly design, it will elimate "play" in the suspension.
Here is what we came up with. These are camber adjustable. They are PROTO-TYPE, we just laser cut these so you can get an idea of what we are going to do to fix this problem. If we do develope these there will be an option to order non camber, and just have a spherical bearing at the top.



There will be a bearing at the top of the plate, just ordered some so they should be here in a day or so. Does this look like a better design?
Here is what we came up with. These are camber adjustable. They are PROTO-TYPE, we just laser cut these so you can get an idea of what we are going to do to fix this problem. If we do develope these there will be an option to order non camber, and just have a spherical bearing at the top.



There will be a bearing at the top of the plate, just ordered some so they should be here in a day or so. Does this look like a better design?
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I know its a proto-type.
All input is greatly appreciated. I want to make sure its perfect especially for the ones that are going to be using them.
All input is greatly appreciated. I want to make sure its perfect especially for the ones that are going to be using them.
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