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Old 11-08-2010, 11:15 PM
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just a note about installing the spacers. to make your life much easer. remove one bolt than just loosin the second bolt but dont remove it. it will keep the rack were it should be and you wont have to try to align it while installing the spacer then trying to thread the bolt. I did this on jack stands on my back. this helps to save a little headache.
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Originally Posted by CobaltVenomSS
AHHHHHH!!!! i just want to know what to buy

idk if i need endlinks axles or what
There are a variety of things that could be wrong. Jack your car up, remove a wheel, and check your Endlinks for play. Generally, the endlinks only clank around when going over bumps and such though. Check your axles for play. Does it do it when you come to a stop at a light? And/Or when you accelerate from a stop light/sign?
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Originally Posted by 08SStc
just a note about installing the spacers. to make your life much easer. remove one bolt than just loosin the second bolt but dont remove it. it will keep the rack were it should be and you wont have to try to align it while installing the spacer then trying to thread the bolt. I did this on jack stands on my back. this helps to save a little headache.
The other thing you need to do is to jack up the entire front to do this. If you leave one front wheel on the ground, it's going to throw your alignment out of whack from left to right. The spacers will slightly change your toe. I don't recall which way off the top of my head, I'd have to look under the car.
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Originally Posted by Wangspeed
I don't think the ackerman angle has changed by adding the rack spacers. To do that, you'd probably have to relocate the rack or tie rods ends.
what do you think the spacers do lol... it changes the rack location, when you lower the car you're lowering the steering rack while keeping the tie rods in relatively the same location, when you add spacers you are bringing them back in line...

so, it changes the ackerman angle back to a more stock-ish figure

heres the mustang stuff about it... and unless these spacers do something differnet than the offset bushings did for mustangs... it accomplishes the same thing
Installation of Maximum Motorsports Aluminum Steering Rack Bushings
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Originally Posted by Wangspeed
The other thing you need to do is to jack up the entire front to do this. If you leave one front wheel on the ground, it's going to throw your alignment out of whack from left to right. The spacers will slightly change your toe. I don't recall which way off the top of my head, I'd have to look under the car.
good call. forgot to mention that.
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Originally Posted by RoadconeTuning
what do you think the spacers do lol... it changes the rack location, when you lower the car you're lowering the steering rack while keeping the tie rods in relatively the same location, when you add spacers you are bringing them back in line...

so, it changes the ackerman angle back to a more stock-ish figure

heres the mustang stuff about it... and unless these spacers do something differnet than the offset bushings did for mustangs... it accomplishes the same thing
Installation of Maximum Motorsports Aluminum Steering Rack Bushings
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You are confusing bump steer and macpherson camber angle changes with ackerman angle. The first link you provided even mentions that it's moving the rack rearwards. We're not changing ackerman on this car by moving the rack up and down, just bump steer characteristics. We would have to move the rack or ball joints back or forward.
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Originally Posted by CobaltVenomSS
i just dont know what to replace on my car... axles or what
intermedate shaft, my car has the same problem kyle.
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Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP
There are a variety of things that could be wrong. Jack your car up, remove a wheel, and check your Endlinks for play. Generally, the endlinks only clank around when going over bumps and such though. Check your axles for play. Does it do it when you come to a stop at a light? And/Or when you accelerate from a stop light/sign?
coming to a stop is normal...but when going over bumps theres a knocking noise thats very noticable... and when i got wot or when i shift to 2nd normally i get a vibration... and when i do u-turns i get a clunking noise when i give it gas but if i let off it goes away
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Ordered from OTTP on the 19th, still not here. Not too excited seeing as how my Moog links came in two days.
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Originally Posted by averagewhiteboy
Ordered from OTTP on the 19th, still not here. Not too excited seeing as how my Moog links came in two days.
link to moog links??
Old 12-02-2010, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by averagewhiteboy
Ordered from OTTP on the 19th, still not here. Not too excited seeing as how my Moog links came in two days.
I don't have an order for end links from the 19th. Get me your order number and I will check on it for you.
Old 12-06-2010, 10:11 AM
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Noooo.. I ordered a set of steering rack spacers from you guys at OTTP.. The Moog links I got from Rock Auto.. Still haven't received the spacers yet..
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Yeah these were a lot of fun to install
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The rack spacers work with the stock tranmission mounts.
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Originally Posted by redcobalt07
The rack spacers work with the stock tranmission mounts.
Only the thin ones. I just installed thicker ones 8mm, but I couldn't have done it without the stage 1 rotated mounts.
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Originally Posted by Wangspeed
Only the thin ones. I just installed thicker ones 8mm, but I couldn't have done it without the stage 1 rotated mounts.
**** i just took every thing apart... wish this would be listed under the part description when purchasing.............
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So where or how do you order the thin ones? I don't see that option on the OTTP site.
All it shows is the 4 lowering options: 0-.7, .8-1.3, 1.4-1.9, 2.0+
Is that only a problem with the SS or will I have that problem with my 2.2 with Pedders?
Old 04-28-2011, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by redcobalt07
The rack spacers work with the stock tranmission mounts.
I'm installing my Pedders and rack spacers this upcoming Wednesday. The Pedders and Rack Spacers came as a package deal with a sale they were doing a while back...they are the .8-1.3 spacers. Are you saying I need upgraded tranny mounts to run the spacers?
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Originally Posted by Sweetsandman
I'm installing my Pedders and rack spacers this upcoming Wednesday. The Pedders and Rack Spacers came as a package deal with a sale they were doing a while back...they are the .8-1.3 spacers. Are you saying I need upgraded tranny mounts to run the spacers?
I had to.... I had pedder springs with ttr spacer and it wouldn't fit with the stock mount. So i ordered ttr s.t.o.p mounts
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mine are 12mm thick for the 2.0 lowering, my concern however though is that the bolts are not nearly as threaded into the the subframe as what they were before, I dont want them coming undone and then having an accident caused because of it
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The 2 smallest sizes of our spacers will fit on stock mounts for sure. The 3rd size may fit and the largest size won't fit without mounts. I should go update this....
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Originally Posted by Josh@ottp
The 2 smallest sizes of our spacers will fit on stock mounts for sure. The 3rd size may fit and the largest size won't fit without mounts. I should go update this....
Awesome that first part is the category I fall into so that's great news!

Although, I'll probably order the tranny mount eventually anyways...just glad to hear I don't have to do it RIGHT now lol!
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Originally Posted by Josh@ottp
The 2 smallest sizes of our spacers will fit on stock mounts for sure. The 3rd size may fit and the largest size won't fit without mounts. I should go update this....
Sooooo....what do us 2.2's with Pedders do? Just live with the bumpsteer? Afaik the rotated mounts are for 2.0 only right?
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Get the rack spacers from ttr.
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Originally Posted by Josh@ottp
The 2 smallest sizes of our spacers will fit on stock mounts for sure. The 3rd size may fit and the largest size won't fit without mounts. I should go update this....
How thick are the different sizes? I'm told I need a 3/4" for a 2.2 on Pedders and it sounds like it will never fit and there are not rotated mounts for 2.2 to accommodated it.
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