anything can beat anything with the right amount of money.. but the avg person doesnt have a **** ton of $$$ laying around to waiste trying to prove this.. there is no replacement for displacement

 

true...very true

 

DSM's or VTEC


[SIZE="7"]BENCH RACING IS FOR HOMO'S

 

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i'm actually looking at getting myself an SS SC as a daily driver. my stang isn't going to be something i want to drive on the street every day anymore when i get it back. if i can't get a good deal on the SS SC, i'll just get an LS like my gf has.

 

DSM's or VTEC

BENCH RACING IS GAY

 

I don't think there is one ounce of proof on this. I do believe a STG 2 Balt equipped with DR's may be able to produce a 13.5 but as of now, not one person on this forum has done this that I know of.

 

but its not impossible **** i beat regular gts and trans ams as it is now add a stage 2 and drags and a badass driver and u got something there ....

 

Regular GT's are one thing, an LS1 T/A is another. If you're actually beating LS1 T/A's (which I doubt), then you wouldn't need to add anything to beat a Mach 1.

 

actually yes i did beat a ls1 but my bf was racing my car and he one of those badass drivers soo its not that hard as long as u know what ur doing when it comes to driving and stuff but yes they are tough ass cars to beat but yes we did race a white ls1 trans am and did beat him so hehe....

 

sorry but no.. stock lsj isn't going to beat an LS1 unless the driver does not know how to drive or he wasnt racing

 

And you've done what to that SS/SC? Raced from a roll or dig? Was the LS1 T/A actually racing or running without a few cylinders firing?

 

man whatever lol this is funni ok im not gonna argue .....ok next time i do it im gonna tape it and ill show yah...

 

Are you one of the clueless who think that the Cobalt SS/SC is still stuck in the 14's when modified?

 

also i didnt say i ran all over him either trust i barely beat him and again my boyfriend wich is a pro racer beat him and again he took of on us at first we beat him at the end tho im saying just cuz i beat him means i ran circles no trust me im not saying that and he might have been a horrible driver but im just telling yah the facts

 

Oh, there's mods you could have done that would enable you to do it, but a stock SS/SC isn't going to like the outcome of racing an LS1 T/A that is actually racing. Now if the T/A driver decided not to downshift, I could see that possibly happening. LS1 F-Bodies are stout competition for my car, and stock SS/SC's are not.

EDIT: And you definitely aren't going to pull on one that is already ahead and racing you.

 

You do realize some Balts on here run 12.8's right?

 

well then sorrie to tell then ya cant drive ......and again im not gonna argue with dude i wouldnt lie

 

I do realize that. No, I don't think SS/SC's are stuck in the 14's once modified. That's precisely why I asked what had been done to hers. One modified to whatever degree is required to beat a car that averages low to mid 13's could certainly do it, but a stock SS/SC will not. She has no mods listed in her sig, so I assume hers is stock.

 

u wil beat him i beat one when all i had was stage 2 intake and exhaust.

 

Perhaps you should head to an LS1 F-Body forum and post that kill. I'm not saying that an LS1 T/A is unbeatable or anything, but a stock SS/SC just isn't going to do it unless something is wrong with the T/A, the T/A isn't racing, or the T/A's driver just can't find his gears.

 

my car is stock bone stock from the factory and yes i kept up with a ls1 trans am what part of this cant u understand .....i said it was very hard but i did it well the bf did it in my car and ws6 are low 13 not regular trans ams......anyways .....

ok well as soon as i find another stock ls1 trans am ill video tape it and show ya ...anyways

 

Believing those GM power ratings I see. LS1 F-Bodies (Camaro Z28, Camaro SS, Firebird Formula, T/A, and T/A WS6) all dyno in the same range. They all average low to mid 13's. A few stock ones have hit 12.9 when the stars were apparently aligned perfectly (never actually witnessed that one, but have read about it).

Now, all of this is moot if that was a stock LT1 T/A. I can see that possibly happening against an LT1 T/A, especially as you get into top end.

 

no its was an ls1.........no wait im gonna stop now forget it it i give up ..

 

im not trying to argue with n e body on this.. but there is experience vs misconception of what the other vechicle is and just base fundamental knowledge... but i agree with you on this one..

pink.. normally i would have flamed you right now but i also know your a chick and given some of your statements your really not mechanically knowledgable at all and i dont hold it against you.. but you sound like a magazine racer truthfully.. that or you bf has no idea what cars are what.. i dont know him but i assume he knows what he is talking about ( i have known many a mechanic that were dipshits about cars)..

stock LsJ will not compete on any playing field with a stock LS1, dont care whos driving the lsj, so in that aspect ill go with this TA being an LT version, i have raced LT camaros and it is a very close race.. but LS is a totally different animal.. we are trying to help you here so if you go elsewhere you wont sound like a complete douche.. but what your pretty much saying right now is... hey... my car is stock and i beat the flagship car....an ls1 is an ls1.. camaro/ta/vette...

again.. not flaming.. just trying to get all the right info and set things straight to further knowledge here

 

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and chalk that one up to a clueless driver or something wrong with the car. My advice though would be to avoid gambling on your ability to beat LS1 F-Bodies with a stock SS/SC.




And I'll agree with this. I reached the same conclusion that you did. Had she made a statement like that on ls1.com, it'd be 30-page thread in an hour.

I'm not trashing the SS/SC, hell I've been considering buying one. I just know that in stock trim they are outclassed by LS1 F-Bodies and my car, yet those two are competitive with one another.

Like you, I could see this happening with an LT1 F-Body, especially as the race got into top end. Were you stock when you beat one?