i only have CAI and torque dampner.. buddy has a '94(i think) z28/Auto (looks like the new bodies but has the 4 headlights up front)

From a dig.. its not funny.. he can normally pull about 2 cars up to 100 due to 1st gear sucking in the Balt, but from a roll .. 40.. its normally whoever got the wholeshot Barely winning (by a nose to 1/2 car length at max) w/ me (balt) winning about 40% of the races and i am a far better driver then him or n e body i know

 

ok the LS1 TRANS AM that my bf raced in my STOCK(with 4 people in the car ) cobalt yes he took of on us maybe bout a car we then kept up with him it was an auto .....and yes in the end we got a nose on him look im sorry to tell yes i do know what im talking about and so does my bf ...anyways if u wanna keep arguing with me thats fine becuase i was there i wouldnt lie i dont like my cobalt that much to lie about it maybe i had an angel that night or something i dont know but these things are something i dont lie about why would i ...i mean ill tell u maybe this guy was a complete idiot i dont know come on please quit arguing with me ok as soon as i do it again ill put it on video ok until then please dont say another word about it ok......

 

Any F-Body can usually take me off the line, but I never launch my car hard. I can reel in an LT1 rather quickly and it starts to get ugly for them as we get over 80. An LS1 is a driver's race from a dig, but they usually beat me since I never launch my car hard. From a roll, I can generally pull on them, though not substantially.

 

i give up.. if u want to sound like an idiot then so be it.. but im not gonna hate you.. just let me know when you want somebody with actual knowledge to teach you some things.. i have a feeling your bf is leading you down a path of paper racer

 

I read her response and realized that any lucid statement I might make would be about as productive as the others, so I feel your pain. The LS1 T/A being an auto just put the nail in the coffin, not much room for driver error on a roll race.

 

Not to mention the 4 passenger in her car. Maybe it was an auto 3800 with trans am decals.

 

I've certainly seen them before. And they rank right up there with the Z28 with 4x4 decals that I've seen around here.

 

i dont want this to turn to a bash thing, i want to help her understand.. if it was a guy i would be making them look like a complete ******* right now..... she likes cars and wants to learn more.. thats cool as hell and im here to increase the knowledge.. but gotta find a way to get through and erase all of the "engrained" bs things there

 

I beat a stock Mach 1. Go for it. If he has any decent mods though I don't think you can beat him. I have GM stage II, GM Stage III pulley, GM Stage III dual pass intercooler mod, GMPP touring exhaust, GMPP manifold, and a dyno tune. Good luck.

 

were not talking about a gt man. the mach 1 is no slouch. you need s2, and then only race from a roll.
rwd launching>fwd launching

 

he was talking about an 06GT. some of those have been seen running 13.3-13.6. it's a driver's race between an 05+ GT and an 03/04 mach stock vs stock.

 

well, ok then. but that dosen't change the fact that he would need stage 2 plus to win.

 

If i remember correctly I beat your bf. Results were from a roll I pulled away pretty easily. And from a dig it was a fun race, until the beginning of fourth where i started pulling away. I expected teh Mach to pull away in the higher gears but it ended up being the opposite.

Back when i was running 60lbrs and a 2.7" pulley he would smoke me pretty easily, but now it's a different story. Can't remember the mods that he has done but i know he is pushing well over the stock 305whp. And i haven't mhad my car dynoed for a whle but i'd guess i'm running 300 if not very close to it.

 

ok well im sorry to i offended anyone but my words have mixed alot of things up like when i said u got him i ment u gotta a good chance but the reason i said it is maybe if some of yall have a little cofidence maybe something could happen i wasjust trying to be a little positive no i didnt mean u'll beat him i guess im sorry for the misunderstanding.......
now about the trans am thing im sorry if i made it sound like the way i did but we did race him and raced from a roll about 20 and went to about 100 he pulled on us about two cars and kept up with him yes i know from a dead stop he would have eaten my car alive and maybe he slowed down i dont know but anyways im sorry for the confusion that this all caused never ment to say things would upset people i understand that my words were misleading but i didnt know being a little confident was correct but from now on i will 100% perfect on my words and make things crystal clear i guess on the inernet u cant really tell people true meaning so i will have to watch my words that i used but no im not a paper racer or dumb i actually know what im talking about but ive just never talked on this forum or on the internet so i never realized that every single word mattered .........sorry for the inconvience ......MiStY

 

i can vouch for this guy and ive never even met him or see his car , i have stage 2 , zzp header , 3 in dp w hi flow cat that bolts into stock exhaust , and airbox mod and ive ran 2 mach 1's , the first one had xpipe flowmaster mufflers and k&n intake he had me right when we got into 3rd got me by like 4 cars said his best run was 13.30 , next guy i raced had basani cat back and we went from 40 first race he put probably 3 cars on me AGAIN after 2nd 2nd race we were dead even he missed 3rd and i switched a lane those are my only 2 losses are to those damn mach 1's they are FAST

 

lots of people underestimate mach 1's. they are very fast with a couple mods and are definately no slow poke stock.

 

Like every other Mustang the Mach1 is given way to much credit, a typical Mustang fanboy will tell you they can keep up with LS1's stock vs stock.

I proven this threory to be wrong at least 20 times in my Camaro SS's. They do a bit better than a GT but are still not up to par with a LS1. I would say that they are just a tad faster than the S197 05+ GT's.

 

LS1's are probably a little faster, but with good driving, both LS1 F-body's and Mach 1's run low 13's. PERIOD.

 

I can agree with this, although I see LS1 F-Bodies running low 13's more consistently than Mach 1's. Mach 1's are not as strong as LS1 F-Bodies from a roll, but they are on par with or perhaps faster than an '01 Cobra.

 

Another friend of mine has a 1999 Cobra that is 100% stock to the paper filter. He raced the same Mach1 I did and the Mach1 would beat the Cobra off the line everytime ending with the Mach1 ahead by 3/4 to 1 car in the 1/4. From a roll it was pretty close every time.

The same driver will run better times in a LS1 than Mach1 nine times out of ten.

Also with LS1's the performance is very similar Auto vs M6 where as the Auto Mach1 is a joke. The Auto has a standard crank and redline about the same as a GT, a DOHC Ford needs the added rpm you loose with the Auto.

 

To back up codyss's post, i am the driver of the 1999 cobra. i would agree the mach would be 3/4 to 1 car ahead at the quater and very close at a role!

 

Yep, Mach 1 is slightly faster than an N/A New Edge Cobra, and the LS1 F-body's are a smidge faster than the Mach 1. I only took issue with your suggestion that Mach 1's are hugely overrated or whatever. No one said that they "absolutely demolish LS1 F-bodies" or anything. Both the Mach and the LS1 are significantly faster than most of the cars on this site, so it's inevitable that they're both considered to be pretty fast.

Anyway, I also totally agree that Auto Mach 1's are retarded. They are far inferior to 5-speed Machs. No argument there. If it was my choice, they wouldn't even be available w/ Auto's. One, because I don't care for autos in the first place, and two, because the auto's are so far inferior to the manuals that the auto is almost an embarrassment to the reputation of the manuals.

 

thats cool.. no biggy.. just gotta watch what ya say b/c it can be interpreted differently... just dont let it happen again or ill beat you..

 

well, my wifes dad has a mach1, and Iv'e challenged him to a duel at the track this coming spring. im stage2+ with all the supporting mods. i also challenged my neighbor, who drives a 1995 stang gt, chipped and intake. i figured it would be entertaining at the least, even if i lose. keep it off the street, fight at the OK Corral Raceway!

 

Needless to say firestorm the Mach1 unless driven horribly will win.

As for the 1995 GT it's toast the chip and intake might help it run a high 14 with a good driver.