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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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i agree,

ls2 gto and ls1 f body would be a good race, but the gto would not be walking away by no means
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:10 AM
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yea, but it wouldn't take much for a ls2 goat to walk away from a ls1 fbody. more displacement, higher flowing heads and intake manifold. Just intake and exhaust does more for the goat than it does for the fbody.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:24 AM
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I know what I saw 100 times over

It took a cammed Ls1 to beat me when I was stock.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
I know what I saw 100 times over

It took a cammed Ls1 to beat me when I was stock.
they just don't get it. Just quit trying man, it's a waste of internet space.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
I know what I saw 100 times over

It took a cammed Ls1 to beat me when I was stock.
I bet I would beat you right now, off the bottle.... on the stock cam/manifolds.. that is right a bolt-on, stalled 4l60E Ls1 would **** all over you WITH your mods.. if you honestly think its going to take a cammed LS1 to beat a stock LS2 gto, you need to put down the ******* crack pipe as there is only about 35-45whp difference in favor of the GTO and yet a couple hundred pounds not in favor of the GTO not to mention the IRS(which is the suck at drag racing) for the GTO compared to the live axle of the f-body(which is the **** for drag racing).. we don't have the 1/4 here but all motor I'm right at 7.9s through the 1/8th(8.0000s. lol) and would have gotten in the 7s if I would have went back in cooler weather... I just want to run 7s all motor, its not fun if you cheat... But I will guarantee your header'd GTO isn't running anywhere near 7s right now through the 1/8th.. of course you "would" beat me from a roll more than likely, but I "would" more than likely arm the bottle and try again, since racing from a roll isn't real drag racing anyway(a 6-speed has a HUGE advantage in doing so over an auto), and I don't recall a drag strip ever letting anyone "go from a roll".......though a couple of Supra owners have probably tried

no doubt, stock for stock, the LS2s are quicker but they aren't "walking away" faster... its a driver's race... will always be a driver's race...

Ls2 GTOs on average seem to be 13.20-13.40 cars

where as LS1 f-bodies seem to be 13.30-13.50 cars

I should have just let this be, because now every time I squash my argument with someone, another person pops up that I just can't let their comment go

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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
yea, but it wouldn't take much for a ls2 goat to walk away from a ls1 fbody. more displacement, higher flowing heads and intake manifold. Just intake and exhaust does more for the goat than it does for the fbody.

Actually you have that completely backwards.
1- Intake and exhaust do much more for an LS1 than LS2
2- The LS6 intake manifold on the 01-02 F-Body is the same flow if not better than a LS2
3- 300whp motivates 3400lbs the same as 350whp does 3700lbs

Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
It took a cammed Ls1 to beat me when I was stock.
Thats funny because as they sit now my car would walk yours modded and a MS4 cammed & bolt-on LS1 will pull on me.

Originally Posted by ralliartist
they just don't get it. Just quit trying man, it's a waste of internet space.
If it was a joke or sarcasm we'd get it but he's serious and full of ****.

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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 10:37 AM
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I bet I would beat you right now, off the bottle.... on the stock cam/manifolds.. that is right a bolt-on, stalled 4l60E Ls1 would **** all over you WITH your mods.. if you honestly think its going to take a cammed LS1 to beat a stock LS2 gto, you need to put down the ******* crack pipe as there is only about 35-45whp difference in favor of the GTO and yet a couple hundred pounds not in favor of the GTO not to mention the IRS(which is the suck at drag racing) for the GTO compared to the live axle of the f-body(which is the **** for drag racing).. we don't have the 1/4 here but all motor I'm right at 7.9s through the 1/8th(8.0000s. lol) and would have gotten in the 7s if I would have went back in cooler weather... I just want to run 7s all motor, its not fun if you cheat... But I will guarantee your header'd GTO isn't running anywhere near 7s right now through the 1/8th.. of course you "would" beat me from a roll more than likely, but I "would" more than likely arm the bottle and try again, since racing from a roll isn't real drag racing anyway(a 6-speed has a HUGE advantage in doing so over an auto), and I don't recall a drag strip ever letting anyone "go from a roll".......though a couple of Supra owners have probably tried

no doubt, stock for stock, the LS2s are quicker but they aren't "walking away" faster... its a driver's race... will always be a driver's race...

Ls2 GTOs on average seem to be 13.20-13.40 cars

where as LS1 f-bodies seem to be 13.30-13.50 cars

I should have just let this be, because now every time I squash my argument with someone, another person pops up that I just can't let their comment go
I ran an 8.1 in the 1/8th I'm pretty sure, on my 12.5 pass. I have to check my 11 second slip but I'm almost positive it was in the 7s. You wouldn't beat my car, try again
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
I ran an 8.1 in the 1/8th I'm pretty sure, on my 12.5 pass. I have to check my 11 second slip but I'm almost positive it was in the 7s. You wouldn't beat my car, try again
i'm also on the stock manifolds, etc.... the point with that rant is, it doesn't take a cammed LS1 to beat a stock LS2 GTO, not even close... As I have a Ls1 with a stall, a lid, a catback, and a tune running 8.0s.....in the southeast humidity...
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 08inBama
i'm also on the stock manifolds, etc.... the point with that rant is, it doesn't take a cammed LS1 to beat a stock LS2 GTO, not even close... As I have a Ls1 with a stall, a lid, a catback, and a tune running 8.0s.....in the southeast humidity...
I'm telling you from my experience on the street, no LS1 powered anything gave much of a fight. Not what a stalled auto is doing with a prepped track trapping ~105 lol
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
I'm telling you from my experience on the street, no LS1 powered anything gave much of a fight. Not what a stalled auto is doing with a prepped track trapping ~105 lol
Will you give it up already.

First you make all of these bogus claims about what you ran stock, then with 20hp in mods and so on. Now you somehow magically pull on cars that are a drivers race for you stock vs stock. A stalled automatic LS1 with no other mods would have you playing catch up the last 100ft add in some mods and your GTO is toast.

You run mid 12's at best just like every other GTO modded like yours. So why insist on digging your already deep hole further?
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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I think its time we all just sit in a circle and sing koom by ya
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 08inBama
I think its time we all just sit in a circle and sing koom by ya
I hear some of the local GTO guys like to sit in a circle but they don't sing.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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so this must be what is like on an fbody forum huh? interesting
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LS2guy
Will you give it up already.

First you make all of these bogus claims about what you ran stock, then with 20hp in mods and so on. Now you somehow magically pull on cars that are a drivers race for you stock vs stock. A stalled automatic LS1 with no other mods would have you playing catch up the last 100ft add in some mods and your GTO is toast.

You run mid 12's at best just like every other GTO modded like yours. So why insist on digging your already deep hole further?
11.99 @ 113.9
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 01:04 AM
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and you don't think bolt-on Ls1s can run high 11s???
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 01:13 AM
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i think you could win it if he's stock from a roll, a dig maybe a diff story
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 01:24 AM
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travis. you haven't read anything have you??? hahahah. go fix your trunk
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 01:40 AM
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nope to ****** cold to do that lol
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 01:57 AM
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it is currently -8*F here right now..F that
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 01:59 AM
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i was thinking, you know how it was like- 65 in alaska? well if you had to live like that for a few days then the temp went up to lik 32 would they be running around in t shirts and shorts
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
11.99 @ 113.9

Nope, and I would bet on it.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
hmmm... i see.

well, go beat...stock...dig and roll:
'95 LT1 Z28 with intake, full exhaust, auto
'96 LT4 C4 vette 6speed
'97 SN95 lightning motor swap
'99 LS1 TA, auto-roll only


.....then we'll talk hahahah, i'm not saying you didn't beat him, cause apparently you did. but maybe he had something wrong? have you been to the dyno/track?
please get over yourself.

now.

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oh yeaaaaaaaaa, cause jess wouldn't send you pics hahaha. kids these days....i guess i can't really talk though i'm only 19

but yeah, he shouldn't have been a "faster" car. he just had an exhaust and you didn't. but still, 3 lengths is pretty good
19yrs old, come on man. I got no beef with you at all, but all the threads you make in the drag section and what not, you are only 19, you claim to beat all these cars that most people know for a FACT are faster. Not only that, but you wanna go through and change the whole TOP 10 list and you think that current rules in place are stupid.

all I'm saying is, calm down a little.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 06:25 PM
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lets not bring age into this.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 08:05 PM
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atleast i don't bring posts from other threads into this one. believe whatever you want man. i don't lie, i never have. i beat those cars.

how are any of those cars not beatable? if you don't believe me that i beat them thats your problem. just say you don't think i beat them. don't say i DIDNT beat them and that its impossible

and yeah, what DOES age have to do with any of this???

and by the way
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all the threads you make in the drag section and what not
i only have 5 threads in that section....so im not really sure what youre trying to say with that....
first thread was posting my friends challenger srt8 times at the track....
second thread was asking if it was possible to run a 13sec pass on the stock engine....
third thread was me wondering why i beat that C4
the fourth was posting my times from the track
and the fifth was wondering what the record is on the stock pulley.


so.......whats your point?

and i never said i wanted to "change the whole top 10 list" i said i wanted to add a catagory for THOSE running an intake and exhaust so THEY aren't considered stock but THEY have no chance to get on any other list.....seems like a good idea to me....nothing will be changed or rearranged. and i also never said the rules were "stupid" i just, like i just stated, said that i think there should be a catagory for those with mods...but nothing to really add some power( intake and exhaust)

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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 02:13 AM
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The LS1 should lay the smack down on a SS/SC cobalt stock. Roll, dig, him giving you 2 lengths. w/e it may be. Something was wrong with the TA.
we're also talking about a car that went 14.2 stock
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