and im sure your fast as hell mini van can beat this huh?? remember you wanted "proof"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-r_N89goFE

lol and a person that drives skilled racing events such as nascar, or full on circuit board races would laugh at them so whats your point?? Your minivan is a drag car now that runs 5-6 seconds in the quarter?? I believe not... And you must be a ******* haha... let me ask you this if dodge was such a competent auto company then why are they in the situation their in??

And why is audi/ VW in the situation their in?? LOL typical comment from a typical american person who has the small minded ego of only sticking to something thats american... audi rs6, audi r8 hmm let me go on... their all Volkwagons my friend haha

 

dude its pointless to argue with this guy. he's so obsessed with his little world of dragging his car and proving how "wonderful" his caliber srt is... oh n his wonderful street racing...

dnt forget this is just a forum, he can talk **** from across the world all he wants...

 

I ****** swear theres a reason why dodge is going down the ******* haha... OMG they can hold like 500 hp haha... but they have a resale value of like 10,000 dollars within a year

 

dnt forget they have all forged internals. and can handle a bizzilion hp...because no other car can handle that much power on thier stock motor...


i also find it funny how the OP hasn't posted back. just an FYI he did not race an r32. he clearly stated it "wheel hopped" like crazy. r32s can launch at 5200 rpm and definitely do not wheel hop... if anything he ran a regular golf vr6 with a r32 body kit. ya people do that...just like ls owners who put ss/sc valances on thier car...

 

Ummm, the NSRT-4 only sold for 3 years. Then there was 2-3 year wait until the CSRT-4 came out. Before the NSRT-4 there wasn't an SRT-4. So how long as the R32 been around? Dude, no one is arguing that the R32 is nicer inside, handles better in the "twisties", blah blah blah blah blah. What I remember saying is that the SRT-4 doesn't handle like complete crap and that it seemed to handle pretty well for me in the twisties and in the snow. Granted I am not beating on it and spinning tires all over the place. I drive to the level that road conditions allow.

Yeah, it is sad that a FWD car can't handle with an AWD car which cost $10k more stock. Oh darn, I knew spending my $19k on my car was a bad idea. DOH!!!!!!!!

So we have come to what????

R32 is nicer inside, handles better, is heavy as hell, is weaker in power and cost $10k more

SRT-4 more of a basic commuter, cost $19k or less, more power than a stock R32, and handles ok but not as good as a R32.

Wow!!! I thought the world was going to implode if we didn't solve this mystery. Scooby-doo, where are you?

Isn't there an R32 forum that you should be on bashing other cars? I race my friends R32, it ran 15's at the track. wow, I completely hate his car because it is SLOW!!!

Sorry had to get that off my chest.

I love VW day at the track, one of the few days you can spend almost the entire day in the que due to break after break after break of VW's going down the track. You can hardly get 3 down the strip before another one breaks.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, his answer is going to be "I can't race your Honda Fit, I am too slow, but I will race you through the twisties".

Yep, just ask any of the cobalt ss/sc or tc guys that run 15's with their car when it is supposed to run about 13.9. Yep, no skill needed there. Then getting the car lower than that while you add on mods, yep still no skill. 1.6 60's come easily to everyone.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd7vqb5-58g

 

whatever bolsters your ego more my friend. Becareful, pretty soon it won't be able to fit inside your R32 though, you might have to upgrade to the VW Routan. That should be big enough for your ego for awhile.


My car was appraised for $16k after 4 years of owning it and with 40k miles on it. I lost $4k in depreciation. Suck it.

 

lol i wonder what you think about hondas haha

I wonder if your willing to loose your ass against a hatch haha... b18c1 with a gt35r??

 

I don't know, how about matching that b18c1 w/gt35r against the red sled (9.x second 1/4 mile street legal SRT-4).

dude, you can throw any combo out there and if it isn't stock the comparison is pointless. Any combo you come up with I can come up with another, so useless.

As for hondas, stock, good cars, owned an older prelude, loved it, great car, but not very fast, not very powerful. The S2K is an ok car, probably handles real well, great in the twisties, you should be all over it That is about it. The Civic Si, including the MUGEN is slow. Couldn't believe when they came out with the Limited MUGEN for $30k+.

You can argue with me more tomorrow. got to get up at 5am to go and train for a marathon in September.

 

lol ok so point proven by you...

stock for stock the srt 4 is better drag queen, and the r32 is better for autocrossing end of story... two totally different cars which are compatable for different uses...

 

Right, the only arguement that was going on was that the R32 is slower and the SRT-4 is faster. Plain and simple. No one races on the forums through twisties so arguing that is pointless.

Arguing the other stuff, my interior is nicer than your interior is also pointless. For $10k more it damn well better be f*cking a nice interior because I am going to need it to make me feel better after I get my ass spanked in a drag race or street race. my clutch pedal is nicer and more expensive than your clutch pedal.

As for the twisties thing, well that will just have to be something that will make the R32 owners feel better when they get to spank the same SRT-4 when they are on a road course. Otherwise enjoy looking at the rear bumper and basket handle spoiler.

 

aww man i hope after that you feel better that you own that car... caz apparently kids these days just buy cars to drag at every stop light they come to... oh and brag about how much power they get for the price of their car... and their all forged motor.

you just proved that you know absolutely nothing about cars... because when you go and buy a car all you shop for is how fast it can go down a track...or as in your words from a stop light...

iirc i dont remember anyone raving over the "csrt4." not saying that the r32 is anything great of the lot but then again that can be argued about many cars. if thats all you can argue is that then you my friend have a lot of growing up to do.

infact you sound just like every other person that owns a "cstr4."

and then everyone wonders why a srt4 owner would ever sell their car and get anything else...

oh and you definitely need to learn to get your facts straight about different cars because ive seen nothing but a stupid ignorant argument from with nothing about actual fact but what you have supposedly seen or your friend...

 

thing is i would rather own the nicer of the two cars and make a car that is already nicer to spank your car is alot better in the first place... hence the r32 over any dodge

 

I am assuming you are talking to someone else and not me. It helps to use the quote option on the forums so that it is clear who you are talking to.

When you go and buy a car, you look for what you want and need in a car. Not buy something that has a ton of other stuff that you are going to pay for that you don't need or want. At the time, and still, the NSRT-4 that I own has what I need. It puts a smile on my face everyday when I drive it and get on it. For me, that is what I need. Why would I want to spend $10k more on a car that has more stuff in it that I won't use. I drive my car 24 miles a day round trip. If I race it is at the drag strip. I didn't have $30k to drop on a car at the time, and like I said, if I did, it definitely wouldn't have been the R32.

To each their own. You will have to spend probably another $5-10k more to get that car to spank the dodge which will put you at approximately $35-40k total spent.

For less than $30k the dodge will end up still spanking you in the straights, since that is where 99% of all races that we see on youtube and streetfire are all done. The ones that are cocky enough to start racing through twisties on a non-closed course are going to be the ones that are sitting in a ditch or end up killing themselves or someone else after they come around a corner. Another reason I like making my house is in a development with no access for thru traffic. Last thing I need is some idiot racing his car through here and taking out my wife or my daughter while they are backing out of the driveway.

 

if you want to see one, my friend has one... but it all depends on how bad you want to see it.. lol

he actually used the car for delivering pizza's lol... For Pizza Hut...

 

depends on where you are. England you can see a wide range of Skylines rolling around. R32, R33. My friend has an '96 R33 GT-R over there. Very nice car. Love the look of it. A lot of the guys I used to race had some versions of the Skyline. Most were single turbo RWD versions. GT-S or GT-St or something like that. An SS/TC would have no problem taking one of those out.

 

im talking about here, in beautiful so cal... friend imported an r32 skyline.. lol... and just put 240 vin's on it...

 

Cool

 

to tell you the honest truth, the neon srt 4, or the caliber srt 4 are sport economy cars just like the ss/sc and the ss/tc no offense to anyone who drives one cuz I used to own one also.... Their in a affordable price range that alot of people can afford making them the easiest choice of car for alot of people, but I can bet you this right now the R32 is a car that is in a league of its own with evo's and sti's....

You dont see evos and stis being affordable to mod and not every kid can afford them either...So let me ask you this....

why do kids buy evos and stis?? Let me just name a few reasons, modability, the name brand of the car, AWD beats fwd, its capable to do anything from off roading to driving in snow to gravel to driving on any service without a hint of a problem...

So why awd? It is a platform that solves alot of damn problems lets just say that in the least, there is a reason alot of people call fwd cars wrong wheel drive cars because fwd sucks big ***** and that isnt a damn lie... Yes you can drive pretty damn normal with having some snow tires on your neon or caliber but if you honestly think that compares by any imagination to any awd car then you need to get a grip on life and go drive one yourself before you start talking your ****

The R32 in itself is a 250 hp V6, awd and honestly alot of people buy the car because of the exhaust note alone... It sounds better than any evo or sti or any damn fwd car out there on the market... The car is excellent in fit and finish, but when i say fit and finish im not talking about the damn paint or the seats in the inside, it goes to an extent much larger than that haha... theres a damn reason why the cars last upwards of 100,000 miles with very little maintenance to the car, the car stays the same it doesnt get those ugly squeeks and rattles any economy 4 door american car now a days gets which is the honest truth and yall know its true... After that many damn miles it still is as solid as the first day that you buy it...

Now with that said, it beats every car below its price tag in the turns or on autocrossing courses, and also beats alot of cars that are heavily modified with suspension mods with that car still being stock, to tell you the truth it is also decently quick considering its an awd N/A engine.... You do some mods on this car and it wakes it right up... You think your 4 banger is fast, the turbo kits on these cars alone run them upwards of 500 hp let alone the torque is usually exceeding hp numbers.... O did i mention thats without touching internals?? Yes stock internals of 500 hp safely!!!!

so lets talk some numbers here, you say well im buying a 19,000 dollar car for the dodge and the R32 for 25-30 grand and i put 5-6 grand of mods into the car.... whereas you pay both the cars off...

Now 3 years down the road that 19,000 dollar car isnt worth but what 9 grand?? And thats no bullshit for facts its the same thing alot of ss/sc owners are facing right now... thats a 10,000 dollar deficit, where the R32 only looses maybe 3-4 grand.... 4 years old they go for 26-28 thousand dollars still... I know this cuz i have been chasing down this car for a long time

Your down 16 grand with the deficit to your car, where the VW is down 10 at the most?? And that goes to show that every year it gets worse for the american car owner where the VW goes down maybe a 1,000 bucks per year haha look up your 2004 r32 right now if you dont mind... their still going for 20,000 dollars for a 2004 with 50-80 thousand miles on them.....

so why buy a r32?? Honestly if your to damn stupid to realize it by now then maybe your not a car guy or are just to damn small minded to realize that there are other cars out there on the market that can compete mind you beat you in your own game

 

if you don't know who i'm speaking to then you have a literacy problem...

and to fastss, well put, but some people don't even know what they are arguing about anymore and will only throw stupid "ideas" at you.

 

haha my goal is to make them see the light... stupidity shouldnt be a excuse

 

Whatever man. If it makes u feel better to be an e-thug go ahead. If uwant to spend $30k, go ahead. I don't sell my cars after 3 yrs so resale value I am not really that worried. Plan on keeping my car for awhile. An no where did I say that it would handle as well as an AWD car. I said it handled well enough for me. I don't go beating on my car with off roading.

 

an R32 is a frickin nice car, it drives well, the interior's sexy, and the exterior is super clean.
for some of the users on the site speed is all they care about
which the r32 is fast, although can an srt4 keep up with it through a canyon? ehh...
does an srt4 have a resale value? ehh...
dont get me wrong i love srt4's and cobalt's but these are two completely different cars.
and only judging a car on how fast it can go in a straight line is only one test.

 

Im by no means an e thug... haha im just proving my case to you because apparently you dont have an argument... Im not bashing your car, im just telling you the R32 is a better car for the money and that with the money extra spent it goes to good use believe me... look at my last post... It sais it right on the bottom

 

Done with this conversation. Pointless to talk any more about it. Think what u want, say what u want. Last time I checked u had that right.