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Bullseye Power Batmowheel for Ko4

Old 12-30-2011, 06:01 PM
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Well of you are afraid of your motor blowing it's this grand idea called building it
I'm down for the wheel hopefully I can score a cheap used stok turbo so my car won't be down again to upgrade it
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Old 12-30-2011, 06:04 PM
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and theres no way a ko4 will produce so much power it'll blow the engine. tune it correctly and you'll be fine.
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Old 12-30-2011, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by raver0789 View Post
It probably shouldn't have gotten a sticky.

Why?

No results yet.

A turbo that flows 2 more lbs a min at most. Big deal.

It's still so small that 27psi will still bust your motor.
So for $400 if you can get something that will give you 2 more lbs a min it isn't worth it? If it increases the power output by 20ish whp it isn't worth it?

WTF are you smoking GTFO. How much does a good exhaust cost again? And how much HP does that add? Yet, people waste money on it every day ... GTFO this thread if you don't like it.

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Damn calm down there turbo
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You'd be lucky for 20hp at the crank, just a guess. Batmowheels are designed to increase the flow and spool of the turbo. On big turbos they net 20hp perhaps at peak psi. To expect the same of a smaller turbo - I wouldn't count on it. Even with the batmowheel, most people will still be running the turbo way past its efficiency rating, creating heat, and popping pistons. It's not necessarily about power. These motors can handle power. They can't handle overboosting the stock turbo. High heat = High IAT2, High IAT2s = high chance of knock. High chance of Knock = boom. I'm not talking out my ass.


All i'm saying this wasn't deserving of a sticky yet, that's all. No attempt to offend.
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Old 12-31-2011, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by raver0789 View Post
All i'm saying this wasn't deserving of a sticky yet, that's all. No attempt to offend.
and i requote myself.

Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921 View Post
you guys act as if a sticky is some award. it just simply keeps the thread up at the top of the page in the lnf section. i'm sure a lot of people still haven't heard of these being made.
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Old 12-31-2011, 07:04 PM
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I agree with Mark. Sticky or not isn't a big deal, it's just something the mods feel that everyone should see. We sticky and unsticky stuff all the time. People pay a lot more money to make a lot less power than this will.
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Originally Posted by TommyP View Post
I agree with Mark. Sticky or not isn't a big deal, it's just something the mods feel that everyone should see. We sticky and unsticky stuff all the time. People pay a lot more money to make a lot less power than this will.
^^This. Raver, if you're so against the wheel, why are you even in here commenting? Especially since you are saying what it will or will not do, meanwhile no testing results have been made available yet.
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Old 12-31-2011, 08:24 PM
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totally agree if you aren't interested in the modification just move on
we need all the help we can get with our platform that we can get
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I remember a thread one time about a BNR 2871GT that everyone doubted even after Drew posted Mustang dyno numbers.

But to the guy saying its not worth it, it is when you can get a K04+ for $400 instead of $1200.

Anyways most of you guys get to caught up in peak hp/tq numbers instead of hp/tq improvements through out the entire power band.
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lawlz cobalt ppl r jews
they dont wanna spend
a penny more ^_^
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Originally Posted by HHRSSouth View Post
I remember a thread one time about a BNR 2871GT that everyone doubted even after Drew posted Mustang dyno numbers.

But to the guy saying its not worth it, it is when you can get a K04+ for $400 instead of $1200.

Anyways most of you guys get to caught up in peak hp/tq numbers instead of hp/tq improvements through out the entire power band.
Truth!
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The real help for our platforms would be pushing zzp and holding them accountable to release these 6258 and 6758 turbos they promised.
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Originally Posted by Omnigear View Post
lawlz cobalt ppl r jews
they dont wanna spend
a penny more ^_^
Hey I am only half Jew.... on my biological father's side..... so it really doesn't count. (Jews only consider maternal heritage as valid or so I have heard). Like I said. I'm only half. LOL
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Originally Posted by raver0789 View Post
The real help for our platforms would be pushing zzp and holding them accountable to release these 6258 and 6758 turbos they promised.
well zzp can't deliver a turbo that is in extremely high demand the issue comes from borg warner and not specifically from zzp, i mean zzp just got their car done not too long ago. the same reason why the stock k04 is hard to get your hands on brand new

and i mean people are complaining about $400 for something that is going to give you proven improvements in the car but you really think they are going to be quick to guarantee a company thousands of dollars.

people are starting to come around with our cars its just going to take time you have zzp developing kits, BYT is coming out with the bolt on 30r kit, and pretty sure their will be others
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Originally Posted by raver0789 View Post
The real help for our platforms would be pushing zzp and holding them accountable to release these 6258 and 6758 turbos they promised.
what!?

holding them accountable??? they never promised anyone a kit. they promised they would produce a kit, which they've done and completed. there's nothing to "hold them accountable" for. all they're waiting on is BW to catch up on production.
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Originally Posted by JBThrasher22 View Post
So for $400 if you can get something that will give you 2 more lbs a min it isn't worth it? If it increases the power output by 20ish whp it isn't worth it?

WTF are you smoking GTFO. How much does a good exhaust cost again? And how much HP does that add? Yet, people waste money on it every day ... GTFO this thread if you don't like it.
Whats interesting about this comment is that while an exhaust may not add as much, it would probably take 1/10 of the time to install. For those who would pay a shop to do the install, that adds quite a bit to the cost. Even if someone doesn't use a shop, it's still a lot of work.

Who knows though, we don't have results yet.
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Originally Posted by Frogstofall View Post
Whats interesting about this comment is that while an exhaust may not add as much, it would probably take 1/10 of the time to install. For those who would pay a shop to do the install, that adds quite a bit to the cost. Even if someone doesn't use a shop, it's still a lot of work.

Who knows though, we don't have results yet.
Well maybe its a good thing bullseye is offering to install and balance the wheels for free.
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Originally Posted by Dart_SI View Post
Well maybe its a good thing bullseye is offering to install and balance the wheels for free.
I'm talking about removing and reinstalling the turbo on the car smart guy.
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Originally Posted by JacBlackSS/TC View Post
well zzp can't deliver a turbo that is in extremely high demand the issue comes from borg warner and not specifically from zzp, i mean zzp just got their car done not too long ago. the same reason why the stock k04 is hard to get your hands on brand new

and i mean people are complaining about $400 for something that is going to give you proven improvements in the car but you really think they are going to be quick to guarantee a company thousands of dollars.

people are starting to come around with our cars its just going to take time you have zzp developing kits, BYT is coming out with the bolt on 30r kit, and pretty sure their will be others

Bolt on 30r? What garret turbo specifically?
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Originally Posted by 40rty View Post
Bolt on 30r? What garret turbo specifically?
I believe its the GT3076r and the GTX3076r that hes working on.
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I'm talking about removing and reinstalling the turbo on the car smart guy.
Its really not that hard on these cars. Out of every car I've worked on cobalts are one of the easiest.
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you all are doing it wrong...double batmowheel on efr
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Originally Posted by RooTBeeR View Post
you all are doing it wrong...double batmowheel on efr
that might be a downgrade considering what the efr wheel is made of. and quicker spool on an efr really isn't gonna do anyone any good especially on the street
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