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Mar 12, 2011 | 10:16 PM

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i live in NE PA no e85 here

Mar 13, 2011 | 07:57 AM

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i live in NE PA no e85 here

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40 Orchard Rd
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519 Marsh Run Rd
New Cumberland
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Mar 13, 2011 | 08:01 AM

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Mar 13, 2011 | 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SKY888

so PLEASE start working for HPT full time/part time.......and lets get this thing rolling!

Maybe we can have the fuel pressure table and other tables open if you help out the other HPT engineers .............in a month or two?????

im not a software guy lol. i stick to fabrication, mechanics, body work, etc. more theh ands on guy or i would.

Mar 13, 2011 | 12:35 PM

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Yea, Im no software engineer lol. I write programs in Qbasic at work... LOL. Will NOT help anyone here with getting more tables with THAT kinda knowledge LMAO..

Thanks tho for giving me that much credit lol

Mar 13, 2011 | 01:32 PM

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so big question is what kind of hp gains are we going to be looking at here

Mar 13, 2011 | 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ripped

so big question is what kind of hp gains are we going to be looking at here

I'm planning on heading to the dyno on 3/19, I'll have some results then.

Mar 13, 2011 | 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by VinceTrifecta

I'm planning on heading to the dyno on 3/19, I'll have some results then.

any new updates? would this work with a aftermarket turbo like the BNR 2871R?

Mar 13, 2011 | 08:11 PM

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any new updates? would this work with a aftermarket turbo like the BNR 2871R?

Or ZZP's Z254

Mar 13, 2011 | 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by whyyoumadson?

hahaha hanover park is right down the road from me. im in carol stream

I lived in Wheaton when I first moved up there, then Carol Stream, then Hanover Park. I know the Buffalo Grove area, it is only about 15 mins from Hanover Park. There was a bar I used to hang out with my friends over in Arlington Heights which is right next to Buffalo Grove.

As far as working for HPTuners, I have a good full time job right now. I also don't have any experience in C# though I know it is pretty similar to Visual C++ which I have programmed in. The real problem is that I have a little understanding of low level programming but have never seen an automotive program so I have no idea what reverse engineering it would entail.

Mar 13, 2011 | 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by smthomas556

Or ZZP's Z254

ya just saw that

Mar 13, 2011 | 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by foff667

We hired 3 new engineers in the last two years, 2 do our calibration work, one is working on the software end of things and still want to hire a couple more HPTuners.com >> Performance At Your Fingertips the problem is finding more near our facility or willing to relocate there but I've said several times in the past that we are all ears.

When hiring outside of the industry it takes about 6 months of training just to get them up to speed not only on our system but what they are doing as this is like no other engineer job most will ever do.

There are very few if any markets that command a full time engineer making $50-100k a year to work on 1 specific market if you or anyone here thinks the E69 LNF pcm is the only one vince works on you are fooling yourself.

I'll give you a for instance we offer support for the following vcm's
A40-head engineer
A40b-head engineer
E37-GM engineer 1
E38-GM engineer 1
E40-GM engineer 1
E55-Head engineer
E67-GM engineer 1
E69-head engineer
E77-head engineer
L4-GM engineer 1
L4big-GM engineer 1
97V6-GM engineer 1
98LS1-GM engineer 1
P01-GM engineer 1
P59-GM engineer 1
P04-GM engineer 1
P05-GM engineer 1
P10-Head engineer
P11-Head engineer
P12-Head engineer
T42-Head engineer
T43-Head engineer
NGC3(dodge)-Head engineer
NGC4(dodge)-Head engineer
JTEC(dodge)-Head engineer
Ford(1024k)-Ford engineer 1
Ford(1472k)-Ford engineer 1
Ford(2048k)-Ford engineer 1

Before you say we've taken on more than we can chew check out the supported list for both vince & the 3rd party to the market and their supported list is nearly as long as ours.

When doing reverse engineering you'll find most companies such as ours will release all the necessary tables to get a good tune, contrary to popular belief most tuners will only adjust between 30-60 tables anything above that is usually left more to the tuner that has an unlimited amount of time on their hands to try tweaking and adjusting every table such as GM which might get 1 or 2 full years to get a tune correct. We don't have this comfort to spend 1 or 2 years straight to reverse engineer every single table in a pcm.

First of all

Vince, I truely do apologize for thread jacking as I know this is your baby.

Second

Sounds like either someone over there needs a new system or a new operator of the system. Something suddenly reminds me David and Galiath all over again.

The pots been stired. The ball is in your court. Not ours. It isn't our fault your software engineers possibly come from grad school and can't figure it out and some guy loosely speaking "out of his basement" can ...

Reverse engineering takes time , well find engineers with more time ..

Thats all I've got to say. Before I spend another dime on a credit for my array of customers waiting for tunes.

Mar 13, 2011 | 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by VinceTrifecta

I'm planning on heading to the dyno on 3/19, I'll have some results then.

I'm off and available all day Friday of this week if you want to do some dyno testing.

Mar 13, 2011 | 11:25 PM

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To add some data to the fuel pump situation. My recent dyno testing has shown the factory in-tank pump to be capable of keeping up with 532whp on E85. I was thinking about this, though, and I'd like to look into the possibility of the small high pressure pump inlet tube as a potential problem. Someone pointed this out earlier in this thread. I didn't think about it at the time, but that tube is modified on my car due to the way the secondary rail is configured. Maybe I will set up a test for this if I get some time.

Mar 13, 2011 | 11:38 PM

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Im totally clueless when it comes to this E85 thing but my buddy has a GTI with 530whp, he had a Walbro 255 fuel pump in the gas tank and it wasnt supplying fuel fast enough so he had to throw a in line fuel pump up by the engine. Would this be something that we might have to do to run the E85? or would that not help because of our DI? just throwing it out there, if its stupid im sorry. lol!

Mar 13, 2011 | 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbo'dSS

If you read my post right above yours, basically what I am saying is that the in-tank pump is capable of supporting the big power. The issues mainly lie elsewhere.

Mar 14, 2011 | 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt M

If you read my post right above yours, basically what I am saying is that the in-tank pump is capable of supporting the big power. The issues mainly lie elsewhere.

HAHA!! yeah i saw that after i posted! lmao!! my bad.

Mar 14, 2011 | 05:45 AM

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AGW's was down to less than 1/16" at the tube end iirc, I checked mine Friday and the outlet of the tube going into the HPFP is greater than 3/32" on mine.

Mar 14, 2011 | 12:53 PM

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AGW's was down to less than 1/16" at the tube end iirc, I checked mine Friday and the outlet of the tube going into the HPFP is greater than 3/32" on mine.

Does this imply that everybody's outlet size is different and some people may have more fuel flow capacity than others because of this?

It sort of makes sense, I have seen SOME cars on the stock turbo hit the P0087 code (mostly 2007 roadsters)

Mar 14, 2011 | 01:06 PM

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It could be, I never popped the P0087 on 93 though, just >70%E.

You've seen it stock turbo on gasoline?

Mar 14, 2011 | 02:21 PM

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Is this something easy to check? I'll measure the tube on my 2007 Sky RL for you.

Mar 14, 2011 | 02:28 PM

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It could be, I never popped the P0087 on 93 though, just >70%E.

You've seen it stock turbo on gasoline?

Yep. Just got a new report of it today from a roadster owner, in fact.

Mar 14, 2011 | 02:58 PM

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Is this something easy to check? I'll measure the tube on my 2007 Sky RL for you.

The ID of the line going into the HPFP. You have to take two bolts out holding the silver can to the mani to be able to remove the line from the pump inlet. Shown by the arrow here...

Mar 14, 2011 | 03:01 PM

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I will check mine. I will try and take a pic. Its already off the car.

Mar 14, 2011 | 04:39 PM

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So will someone that has all stock fuel system equipment be able to run 100% E85 with no problem, or will they have to change some sort of fuel system part?

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